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]]> By: marcus / Rails e o ambiente corporativo (rails corporativo erp soa oracle) http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-143 marcus / Rails e o ambiente corporativo (rails corporativo erp soa oracle) Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:50:47 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-143 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] Matéria Original: Why Ruby on Rails is the perfect framework for building next generation Enterprise Apps [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] Matéria Original: Why Ruby on Rails is the perfect framework for building next generation Enterprise Apps [...]

]]> By: One size doesn't fit all: 4 things I read more recently http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-74 One size doesn't fit all: 4 things I read more recently Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:22:28 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-74 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] RoR has been getting a bit of hard going over more recently from Joel, and in turn a reply from the Oracle AppsLab blog. Reminds me of the Apex vs JDev argument I (accidentally) started sometime back.The Cyclists - [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] RoR has been getting a bit of hard going over more recently from Joel, and in turn a reply from the Oracle AppsLab blog. Reminds me of the Apex vs JDev argument I (accidentally) started sometime back.The Cyclists – [...]

]]> By: The Programming and Management Blog » Developer Links for 10/06/2007 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-24 The Programming and Management Blog » Developer Links for 10/06/2007 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 20:02:05 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-24 [...] If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!Joel recently commented that Rails was not yet ready for the enterprise. This article tries to fight Rail’s corner. I actually added a comment because I feel Joel is right and that Rails still has a few more years to prove itself. Look how long it has taken for PHP to start encroaching on the enterprise arena. It is a bit early for Rails (and its users) to expect it to be adopted by big business. Why Ruby on Rails is the perfect framework for building next generation Enterprise Apps [...] [...] If you’re new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!Joel recently commented that Rails was not yet ready for the enterprise. This article tries to fight Rail’s corner. I actually added a comment because I feel Joel is right and that Rails still has a few more years to prove itself. Look how long it has taken for PHP to start encroaching on the enterprise arena. It is a bit early for Rails (and its users) to expect it to be adopted by big business. Why Ruby on Rails is the perfect framework for building next generation Enterprise Apps [...]

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]]> By: rick http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-17 rick Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:21:32 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-17 Re: Joel and his "points". Joel spends a few thousand words telling you why you need to do your critical stuff in one of the few N + .5 languages, and then admits without irony that they rely primarily on a closed-source in-house Invented Here bastardization of BASIC to write their bug-tracker that noone publicly will admit to actually using. Whatever. Anyway, Java isn't going away, PHP isn't going away, .NET isn't going away, Python isn't going away, and Ruby is only going to get vastly more popular. What I would prefer to see is people realizing that and striving for more interoperability. As a heavy Ruby user in a shop that uses Oracle, I'd love to see Oracle actually contribute more than blogging commentary to the Ruby environment -- i.e., actually take a look at the OCI Ruby adapter, at the Rails Oracle adapter, or even release a damned Intel Mac Instant Client library since it seems that a sizeable fraction of Rails developers are on Mac and the vast majority of those are on Intel Mac. Thanks, Rick Re: Joel and his “points”. Joel spends a few thousand words telling you why you need to do your critical stuff in one of the few N + .5 languages, and then admits without irony that they rely primarily on a closed-source in-house Invented Here bastardization of BASIC to write their bug-tracker that noone publicly will admit to actually using. Whatever.

Anyway, Java isn’t going away, PHP isn’t going away, .NET isn’t going away, Python isn’t going away, and Ruby is only going to get vastly more popular. What I would prefer to see is people realizing that and striving for more interoperability. As a heavy Ruby user in a shop that uses Oracle, I’d love to see Oracle actually contribute more than blogging commentary to the Ruby environment — i.e., actually take a look at the OCI Ruby adapter, at the Rails Oracle adapter, or even release a damned Intel Mac Instant Client library since it seems that a sizeable fraction of Rails developers are on Mac and the vast majority of those are on Intel Mac.

Thanks,
Rick

]]> By: rick http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-15075 rick Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:21:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-15075 Re: Joel and his "points". Joel spends a few thousand words telling you why you need to do your critical stuff in one of the few N + .5 languages, and then admits without irony that they rely primarily on a closed-source in-house Invented Here bastardization of BASIC to write their bug-tracker that noone publicly will admit to actually using. Whatever. Anyway, Java isn't going away, PHP isn't going away, .NET isn't going away, Python isn't going away, and Ruby is only going to get vastly more popular. What I would prefer to see is people realizing that and striving for more interoperability. As a heavy Ruby user in a shop that uses Oracle, I'd love to see Oracle actually contribute more than blogging commentary to the Ruby environment -- i.e., actually take a look at the OCI Ruby adapter, at the Rails Oracle adapter, or even release a damned Intel Mac Instant Client library since it seems that a sizeable fraction of Rails developers are on Mac and the vast majority of those are on Intel Mac. Thanks, Rick Re: Joel and his “points”. Joel spends a few thousand words telling you why you need to do your critical stuff in one of the few N + .5 languages, and then admits without irony that they rely primarily on a closed-source in-house Invented Here bastardization of BASIC to write their bug-tracker that noone publicly will admit to actually using. Whatever.

Anyway, Java isn’t going away, PHP isn’t going away, .NET isn’t going away, Python isn’t going away, and Ruby is only going to get vastly more popular. What I would prefer to see is people realizing that and striving for more interoperability. As a heavy Ruby user in a shop that uses Oracle, I’d love to see Oracle actually contribute more than blogging commentary to the Ruby environment — i.e., actually take a look at the OCI Ruby adapter, at the Rails Oracle adapter, or even release a damned Intel Mac Instant Client library since it seems that a sizeable fraction of Rails developers are on Mac and the vast majority of those are on Intel Mac.

Thanks,
Rick

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]]> By: 한RSS http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-15 한RSS Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:05:15 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-15 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] 거부하기.Google Keeps tweaking Its Search EngineDesign Tip: Localize your Object Creation LogicWhy Ruby on Rails is the perfect framework for building Next Generation Enterprise App"하고 싶은 일이 있으면, 저질러 버리세요" - 앨빈 토플러 강연회 차세대 웹 [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] 거부하기.Google Keeps tweaking Its Search EngineDesign Tip: Localize your Object Creation LogicWhy Ruby on Rails is the perfect framework for building Next Generation Enterprise App”하고 싶은 일이 있으면, 저질러 버리세요” – 앨빈 토플러 강연회 차세대 웹 [...]

]]> By: Rich Manalang http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Rich Manalang Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:08:16 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-14 Tim, re: Twitter's traffic. I actually screwed up. I meant to type in 11k requests per SECOND. That's a lot. http://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+11k+per+second Rich Tim, re: Twitter’s traffic. I actually screwed up. I meant to type in 11k requests per SECOND. That’s a lot.

http://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+11k+per+second

Rich

]]> By: Rich Manalang http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-15074 Rich Manalang Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:08:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-15074 Tim, re: Twitter's traffic. I actually screwed up. I meant to type in 11k requests per SECOND. That's a lot. http://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+11k+per+second Rich Tim, re: Twitter’s traffic. I actually screwed up. I meant to type in 11k requests per SECOND. That’s a lot.

http://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+11k+per+second

Rich

]]> By: Rich Manalang http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Rich Manalang Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:03:01 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-13 Lars, you're right... I need to define what I mean when I refer to an "enterprise app." In this case, I'm referring to the "ERP" type of enterprise app. Vendors like us, SAP, and others have typically built on a stack, whether it's proprietary or open. These are the type of pre-packaged apps I was targeting with my article. Rich Lars, you’re right… I need to define what I mean when I refer to an “enterprise app.” In this case, I’m referring to the “ERP” type of enterprise app. Vendors like us, SAP, and others have typically built on a stack, whether it’s proprietary or open. These are the type of pre-packaged apps I was targeting with my article.

Rich

]]> By: Rich Manalang http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-15073 Rich Manalang Wed, 06 Jun 2007 04:03:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-15073 Lars, you're right... I need to define what I mean when I refer to an "enterprise app." In this case, I'm referring to the "ERP" type of enterprise app. Vendors like us, SAP, and others have typically built on a stack, whether it's proprietary or open. These are the type of pre-packaged apps I was targeting with my article. Rich Lars, you’re right… I need to define what I mean when I refer to an “enterprise app.” In this case, I’m referring to the “ERP” type of enterprise app. Vendors like us, SAP, and others have typically built on a stack, whether it’s proprietary or open. These are the type of pre-packaged apps I was targeting with my article.

Rich

]]> By: Eelco Hillenius http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Eelco Hillenius Wed, 06 Jun 2007 02:01:32 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-12 Sure. Rails is as ready for the enterprise as PHP is. Whether Rails is *the perfect* tool for the enterprise? Well... only if you think static typing should be put on the stack of useless programming concepts (you don't care about the IDE goodies that gets you, and you believe unit testing is a perfect replacement for a compiler), if you don't believe in a strict separation of logic and presentation (you don't work with separate designers and/ or you just reproduce pages from photoshop designs), if you don't believe in object orientation in the view layer (you'd rather program to a 'stateless' model), if you don't believe in self contained components (reusability is overrated), etc, then I guess, yes, Rails is the perfect tool for you. :) Sure. Rails is as ready for the enterprise as PHP is.

Whether Rails is *the perfect* tool for the enterprise? Well… only if you think static typing should be put on the stack of useless programming concepts (you don’t care about the IDE goodies that gets you, and you believe unit testing is a perfect replacement for a compiler), if you don’t believe in a strict separation of logic and presentation (you don’t work with separate designers and/ or you just reproduce pages from photoshop designs), if you don’t believe in object orientation in the view layer (you’d rather program to a ‘stateless’ model), if you don’t believe in self contained components (reusability is overrated), etc, then I guess, yes, Rails is the perfect tool for you. :)

]]> By: Eelco Hillenius http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-15072 Eelco Hillenius Wed, 06 Jun 2007 02:01:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-15072 Sure. Rails is as ready for the enterprise as PHP is. Whether Rails is *the perfect* tool for the enterprise? Well... only if you think static typing should be put on the stack of useless programming concepts (you don't care about the IDE goodies that gets you, and you believe unit testing is a perfect replacement for a compiler), if you don't believe in a strict separation of logic and presentation (you don't work with separate designers and/ or you just reproduce pages from photoshop designs), if you don't believe in object orientation in the view layer (you'd rather program to a 'stateless' model), if you don't believe in self contained components (reusability is overrated), etc, then I guess, yes, Rails is the perfect tool for you. :) Sure. Rails is as ready for the enterprise as PHP is.

Whether Rails is *the perfect* tool for the enterprise? Well… only if you think static typing should be put on the stack of useless programming concepts (you don’t care about the IDE goodies that gets you, and you believe unit testing is a perfect replacement for a compiler), if you don’t believe in a strict separation of logic and presentation (you don’t work with separate designers and/ or you just reproduce pages from photoshop designs), if you don’t believe in object orientation in the view layer (you’d rather program to a ‘stateless’ model), if you don’t believe in self contained components (reusability is overrated), etc, then I guess, yes, Rails is the perfect tool for you. :)

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]]> By: Leo http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Leo Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:42:18 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-10 "Rails is nothing without Ruby." I strongly disagree with that comment! In fact, I would argue that Ruby is nothing without Rails! If Ruby were such a gem in and of itself then it would not have taken it over a decade to get above marginal recognition. As a scripting language Ruby has never achieved the popularity of Perl or even Python. So were it not for Rails, Ruby would have remained an unremarkable scripting language without JRuby or other efforts that seems to pop-up on daily basis. “Rails is nothing without Ruby.” I strongly disagree with that comment! In fact, I would argue that Ruby is nothing without Rails!

If Ruby were such a gem in and of itself then it would not have taken it over a decade to get above marginal recognition. As a scripting language Ruby has never achieved the popularity of Perl or even Python. So were it not for Rails, Ruby would have remained an unremarkable scripting language without JRuby or other efforts that seems to pop-up on daily basis.

]]> By: Leo http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/comment-page-1/#comment-15071 Leo Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:42:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2007/06/04/why-ruby-on-rails-is-the-perfect-framework-for-building-next-generation-enterprise-apps/#comment-15071 "Rails is nothing without Ruby." I strongly disagree with that comment! In fact, I would argue that Ruby is nothing without Rails! If Ruby were such a gem in and of itself then it would not have taken it over a decade to get above marginal recognition. As a scripting language Ruby has never achieved the popularity of Perl or even Python. So were it not for Rails, Ruby would have remained an unremarkable scripting language without JRuby or other efforts that seems to pop-up on daily basis. “Rails is nothing without Ruby.” I strongly disagree with that comment! In fact, I would argue that Ruby is nothing without Rails!

If Ruby were such a gem in and of itself then it would not have taken it over a decade to get above marginal recognition. As a scripting language Ruby has never achieved the popularity of Perl or even Python. So were it not for Rails, Ruby would have remained an unremarkable scripting language without JRuby or other efforts that seems to pop-up on daily basis.

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