Comments on: Bloggers at OpenWorld http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/ Driving Innovation Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:01:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-2/#comment-3891 Jake Wed, 28 May 2008 14:11:49 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-3891 @Pawel: The details are being worked out right now, but it sounds like PR will offer the same type of program to bloggers. @Pawel: The details are being worked out right now, but it sounds like PR will offer the same type of program to bloggers.

]]> By: Pawel Barut http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-2/#comment-3890 Pawel Barut Wed, 28 May 2008 06:30:39 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-3890 Hi Jake, Will be the same policy kept for OOW2008? /Paweł Hi Jake,

Will be the same policy kept for OOW2008?
/Paweł

]]> By: When bloggers type, people listen « Quoth the Raven http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-2/#comment-3155 When bloggers type, people listen « Quoth the Raven Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:06:07 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-3155 [...] to their Oracle Openworld conference last year for the first time. The conference is run by the Oracle AppsLab, a “think tank” dedicated to applying Web 2.0 across Oracle’s businesses and [...] [...] to their Oracle Openworld conference last year for the first time. The conference is run by the Oracle AppsLab, a “think tank” dedicated to applying Web 2.0 across Oracle’s businesses and [...]

]]> By: Tardate 11.1 - Oracle OpenWorld from Afar http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-2/#comment-1807 Tardate 11.1 - Oracle OpenWorld from Afar Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:54:09 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1807 <strong>Oracle OpenWorld from Afar...</strong> [..] I'd like to add my big vote of thanks to the OTN, AppsLab and Oracle bloggers, whose combined efforts really did make this a great (first?) "virtual" OpenWorld [..]... Oracle OpenWorld from Afar…

[..] I’d like to add my big vote of thanks to the OTN, AppsLab and Oracle bloggers, whose combined efforts really did make this a great (first?) “virtual” OpenWorld [..]…

]]> By: Oracle’s Social Web Debut « GigaOM http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1774 Oracle’s Social Web Debut « GigaOM Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:12 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1774 [...] attended the conference in other capacities in the past, this is the first time Oracle (ORCL) has invited bloggers as press to OpenWorld. About 20 bloggers took the company up on its offer; scheduled activities included meeting with the [...] [...] attended the conference in other capacities in the past, this is the first time Oracle (ORCL) has invited bloggers as press to OpenWorld. About 20 bloggers took the company up on its offer; scheduled activities included meeting with the [...]

]]> By: The 'Total Disclosure' debate and Oracle OpenWorld | TechBuzz http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1591 The 'Total Disclosure' debate and Oracle OpenWorld | TechBuzz Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:07:05 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1591 [...] to this year’s Oracle OpenWorld Conference that runs November 11 – 15 has sparked quite an animated discussion  in the blogosphere about issues such as: transparency, disclosure, “press” freedom (as bloggers will be [...] [...] to this year’s Oracle OpenWorld Conference that runs November 11 – 15 has sparked quite an animated discussion  in the blogosphere about issues such as: transparency, disclosure, “press” freedom (as bloggers will be [...]

]]> By: Enterprise Bloggers, Openness and a Thriving Ecosystem| Zoli’s Blog http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1350 Enterprise Bloggers, Openness and a Thriving Ecosystem| Zoli’s Blog Mon, 22 Oct 2007 01:50:59 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1350 [...] it, not wanting to be part of the “storm in a teacup“, created by  Oracle’s announcement  that they would open up their annual OpenWorld conference to bloggers for the first [...] [...] it, not wanting to be part of the “storm in a teacup“, created by  Oracle’s announcement  that they would open up their annual OpenWorld conference to bloggers for the first [...]

]]> By: The Feature » Attending the Oracle OpenWorld 2007 http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1229 The Feature » Attending the Oracle OpenWorld 2007 Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:37:20 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1229 [...] is my first time at the OOW. Oracle made my decision somewhat easier this time by inviting Oracle bloggers to attend the conference. I appreciate the gesture and the recognition of a vibrant blogging [...] [...] is my first time at the OOW. Oracle made my decision somewhat easier this time by inviting Oracle bloggers to attend the conference. I appreciate the gesture and the recognition of a vibrant blogging [...]

]]> By: Marian Crkon http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1196 Marian Crkon Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:53:20 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1196 Being one of "straight-up consultant" bloggers (as Ann Z called us) I was pleased Oracle extended its invites to us "citizen journalists". I see it as Oracle's attempt to encourage a broader discussion about its products and services than a small circle of professional journalists and analyst could generate. A waived fee is nice, paid travel expenses would be even nicer. Personally, I will still be in red for the week due to lost consulting revenues. I can't believe we are spending so much time on this issue. A bigger question for me is what will attendees get from a mega conference like OOW in return for their investment of time and money? How efficient can 1,600 sessions in five days be to "Learn, Experience and Connect"? Oracle speakers always emphasize that conferences are where Oracle "listens to their customers". It is hardly a two-way discussion. If blogs can provide a constructive feedback and a forum to express opinions to whatever is being presented then the Bloggers at OpenWorld "program" would be a win for everyone. How fair and independent the coverage is is up the blog readers to decide regardless whether Oracle paid for bloggers airfare or not... Being one of “straight-up consultant” bloggers (as Ann Z called us) I was pleased Oracle extended its invites to us “citizen journalists”. I see it as Oracle’s attempt to encourage a broader discussion about its products and services than a small circle of professional journalists and analyst could generate.

A waived fee is nice, paid travel expenses would be even nicer. Personally, I will still be in red for the week due to lost consulting revenues. I can’t believe we are spending so much time on this issue.

A bigger question for me is what will attendees get from a mega conference like OOW in return for their investment of time and money? How efficient can 1,600 sessions in five days be to “Learn, Experience and Connect”?

Oracle speakers always emphasize that conferences are where Oracle “listens to their customers”. It is hardly a two-way discussion. If blogs can provide a constructive feedback and a forum to express opinions to whatever is being presented then the Bloggers at OpenWorld “program” would be a win for everyone. How fair and independent the coverage is is up the blog readers to decide regardless whether Oracle paid for bloggers airfare or not…

]]> By: Justin Kestelyn http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1194 Justin Kestelyn Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:18:30 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1194 Sorry, I meant Peter/Vinnie. Sorry, I meant Peter/Vinnie.

]]> By: Justin Kestelyn http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1193 Justin Kestelyn Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:13:39 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1193 Michael/Vinnie - are you guys asking me to fix the entire multi-billion-dollar analyst industry? Sorry, that's above my pay grade. Michael/Vinnie - are you guys asking me to fix the entire multi-billion-dollar analyst industry? Sorry, that’s above my pay grade.

]]> By: Michael Krigsman http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1178 Michael Krigsman Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:50:40 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1178 I do agree change takes time, and Oracle has taken a step in the right direction. Usually, the first step is the hardest, so we'll see what develops in the future. I do agree change takes time, and Oracle has taken a step in the right direction. Usually, the first step is the hardest, so we’ll see what develops in the future.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1169 Jake Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:01:15 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1169 Hey <a href="http://www.gadgetguy.de/2007/10/16/corporate-blogger-relations-sap-vs-oracle/" rel="nofollow">gadgetguy</a>, your comments are borked, so I'm responding here. You are wrong about intentions, as far as mine are concerned, and since you reference one of my comments, I want to clarify. My personal intentions for inviting bloggers is to get them access to all the customers, partners, employees, executives, etc. OpenWorld is a great place to mingle and hear people's stories, all of them, not just the case studies. That said, I am not in charge of the program, which you should know by reading here. The principals involved in this discussion (Vinnie, Jeff, Michael, Dennis) have been critical, but fair. They understand that change takes time and want to be involved insofar as we invited them to the event/into the discussion. I suggest you do the same, or at least jump into the discussion here. And fix your comments. Hey gadgetguy, your comments are borked, so I’m responding here.

You are wrong about intentions, as far as mine are concerned, and since you reference one of my comments, I want to clarify.

My personal intentions for inviting bloggers is to get them access to all the customers, partners, employees, executives, etc. OpenWorld is a great place to mingle and hear people’s stories, all of them, not just the case studies.

That said, I am not in charge of the program, which you should know by reading here. The principals involved in this discussion (Vinnie, Jeff, Michael, Dennis) have been critical, but fair. They understand that change takes time and want to be involved insofar as we invited them to the event/into the discussion.

I suggest you do the same, or at least jump into the discussion here. And fix your comments.

]]> By: Corporate Blogger Relations: SAP vs. Oracle | www.gadgetguy.de - The GadgetGuy http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1158 Corporate Blogger Relations: SAP vs. Oracle | www.gadgetguy.de - The GadgetGuy Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:01:32 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1158 [...] has a great summary of Oracle’s recent announcement to invite bloggers to OpenWorld. Dennis also has valuable [...] [...] has a great summary of Oracle’s recent announcement to invite bloggers to OpenWorld. Dennis also has valuable [...]

]]> By: Peter K http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1148 Peter K Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:59:27 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1148 Minor correction. "Analysts get the whole package paid for but press do not as it would be a conflict of interest." should be "Analysts get the whole package paid for but press do not as it would be a conflict of interest???". That's for Justin not Vinnie or Michael. Minor correction.

“Analysts get the whole package paid for but press do not as it would be a conflict of interest.” should be “Analysts get the whole package paid for but press do not as it would be a conflict of interest???”.

That’s for Justin not Vinnie or Michael.

]]> By: Peter K http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1147 Peter K Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:55:17 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1147 Michael/Vinnie, You guys are too funny. Analysts get the whole package paid for but press do not as it would be a conflict of interest. Justin, are you saying that the analysts who writes research pieces (say either Gartner or Forrester) with their "Magic Quadrant", "Hype Wave" or whatever shows Oracle being in the "Leading Innovator and Implementor", I should take with a grain of salt as they have been paid by Oracle to ensure their ranking whereas others who have been lumped into the lower quadrant did not forked out the required monies to buy the analyst's "opinion and research"? That's a good one that my CIO is going to have to reconsider paying our subscription fees to these research services for "PAID MARKETING". Me thinks that I have to talk to my Gartner representative regarding getting my subscription fees back. Michael/Vinnie,
You guys are too funny. Analysts get the whole package paid for but press do not as it would be a conflict of interest.

Justin, are you saying that the analysts who writes research pieces (say either Gartner or Forrester) with their “Magic Quadrant”, “Hype Wave” or whatever shows Oracle being in the “Leading Innovator and Implementor”, I should take with a grain of salt as they have been paid by Oracle to ensure their ranking whereas others who have been lumped into the lower quadrant did not forked out the required monies to buy the analyst’s “opinion and research”?

That’s a good one that my CIO is going to have to reconsider paying our subscription fees to these research services for “PAID MARKETING”. Me thinks that I have to talk to my Gartner representative regarding getting my subscription fees back.

]]> By: deal architect : Oracle's Blogger Overtures http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1131 deal architect : Oracle's Blogger Overtures Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:04:18 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1131 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] to Oracle OpenWorld in San Francisco next month. But read Dennis Holwett's post this morning and my dialog this weekend with two of Oracle's sponsors for the initiative - Justin Kestelyn and Jake [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] to Oracle OpenWorld in San Francisco next month. But read Dennis Holwett’s post this morning and my dialog this weekend with two of Oracle’s sponsors for the initiative - Justin Kestelyn and Jake [...]

]]> By: Michael Krigsman http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1129 Michael Krigsman Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:42:22 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1129 Justin: My blog is definitely analyst-oriented -- I provide analysis and advice, rather than merely report events. Therefore, I'm ready to accept payment from Oracle, and promise I will disclose the client relationship to readers, ensuring intellectual honesty. Should you think I'm joking, rest assured I'm not. Justin: My blog is definitely analyst-oriented — I provide analysis and advice, rather than merely report events. Therefore, I’m ready to accept payment from Oracle, and promise I will disclose the client relationship to readers, ensuring intellectual honesty. Should you think I’m joking, rest assured I’m not.

]]> By: vinnie mirchandani http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1128 vinnie mirchandani Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:53:39 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1128 Justin, I just declared myself an analyst again. Where's my check? Justin, I just declared myself an analyst again. Where’s my check?

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/comment-page-1/#comment-1127 Jake Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:10:03 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2007/10/12/bloggers-at-openworld/#comment-1127 Michael: I saw your post and am working internal channels to find someone to talk to you about ASU (as noted in comment 18), ideally at OOW, to which you are invited. I hope you'll be able to make it. Michael: I saw your post and am working internal channels to find someone to talk to you about ASU (as noted in comment 18), ideally at OOW, to which you are invited. I hope you’ll be able to make it.

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