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		<title>By: Oracle Infogram &#124; Oracle FAQ</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2903</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle Infogram &#124; Oracle FAQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] me, and something Jake from the AppsLab team at Oracle would like to invite you to partake of. In this blog entry he describes crowdsourcing a bit and asks for help gathering info on what you consider to be a Web [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] me, and something Jake from the AppsLab team at Oracle would like to invite you to partake of. In this blog entry he describes crowdsourcing a bit and asks for help gathering info on what you consider to be a Web [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2748</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johan: Replied on your blog and here, closing the 2.0 feedback loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johan: Replied on your blog and here, closing the 2.0 feedback loop.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Myrberger</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2747</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Myrberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake,

posted a comment to your comment on my blog and notified you in a comment on your blog. 2.0-ish enough?

Short version. No, I don&#039;t have the slides. Found a similiar set of slides though. Jump to my blog for the link..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake,</p>
<p>posted a comment to your comment on my blog and notified you in a comment on your blog. 2.0-ish enough?</p>
<p>Short version. No, I don&#8217;t have the slides. Found a similiar set of slides though. Jump to my blog for the link..</p>
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		<title>By: Oracle Infogram: Performance, and How to Ruin It, Crowdsourcing</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>Oracle Infogram: Performance, and How to Ruin It, Crowdsourcing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] me, and something Jake from the AppsLab team at Oracle would like to invite you to partake of. In this blog entry he describes crowdsourcing a bit and asks for help gathering info on what you consider to be a Web [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] me, and something Jake from the AppsLab team at Oracle would like to invite you to partake of. In this blog entry he describes crowdsourcing a bit and asks for help gathering info on what you consider to be a Web [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Frank: I saw the guide early on, and it&#039;s good stuff. I&#039;ll take a look at the meme map after the summit, which is a heavy-duty time commitment right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frank: I saw the guide early on, and it&#8217;s good stuff. I&#8217;ll take a look at the meme map after the summit, which is a heavy-duty time commitment right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2691</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i also recently came across this &quot;Web2MemeMap&quot;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/36521959321@N01/44349798</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i also recently came across this &#8220;Web2MemeMap&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/36521959321@N01/44349798" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/36521959321@N01/44349798</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2690</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve been pulling together a Web 2.0 guide for Oracle employees.  Please feel free to draw from and add to this

https://kix.oraclecorp.com/KIX/display.php?labelId=4331&amp;articleId=73632</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been pulling together a Web 2.0 guide for Oracle employees.  Please feel free to draw from and add to this</p>
<p><a href="https://kix.oraclecorp.com/KIX/display.php?labelId=4331&amp;articleId=73632" rel="nofollow">https://kix.oraclecorp.com/KIX/display.php?labelId=4331&amp;articleId=73632</a></p>
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		<title>By: mrontemp: Talk about foot in mouth disease</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2689</link>
		<dc:creator>mrontemp: Talk about foot in mouth disease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] is in the midst of an internal Oracle summit, and since the subject is Web 2.0, he thought he&#039;d solicit some help:Our first challenge will be to brainstorm every 2.0 technology, method, or philosophy that we have [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] is in the midst of an internal Oracle summit, and since the subject is Web 2.0, he thought he&#8217;d solicit some help:Our first challenge will be to brainstorm every 2.0 technology, method, or philosophy that we have [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Shishir: Wouldn&#039;t you say SaaS is a 1.0 philosophy, born as the xSP model? Maybe SaaS is the 2.0 version, i.e. greater scale and lower cost have allowed it to flourish. Interesting to think about, thanks for mentioning.

@Johan: Sweet, I plan to watch it today. I enjoy Anderson&#039;s talks, must be the economics major in me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Shishir: Wouldn&#8217;t you say SaaS is a 1.0 philosophy, born as the xSP model? Maybe SaaS is the 2.0 version, i.e. greater scale and lower cost have allowed it to flourish. Interesting to think about, thanks for mentioning.</p>
<p>@Johan: Sweet, I plan to watch it today. I enjoy Anderson&#8217;s talks, must be the economics major in me.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Myrberger</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Myrberger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My current &quot;favourite&quot; is the Freeconomics aspect. As a driver etc. for &quot;Web 2.0&quot;. 

Have a look at Chris Anderson&#039;s talk (link in this blog post: http://thekillerattitude.com/2008/01/freeconomics.html ) - well spent 45 mins.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My current &#8220;favourite&#8221; is the Freeconomics aspect. As a driver etc. for &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;. </p>
<p>Have a look at Chris Anderson&#8217;s talk (link in this blog post: <a href="http://thekillerattitude.com/2008/01/freeconomics.html" rel="nofollow">http://thekillerattitude.com/2008/01/freeconomics.html</a> ) &#8211; well spent 45 mins.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Shishir</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2676</link>
		<dc:creator>Shishir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one-to-many model of SAAS(software as a service) is a perfect 2.0 philosophy example. Nothing else has leveraged 2.0 techs more than the software vendors of SAAS products. 

Google being the front runner with its product suite consisting of ( GMail, GDocs, GReader etc) has convinced people using desktop clients to shift to web as the working alternative.

Salesforce.com, Oracle On-Demand, Office Live and many others are quintessential of how SAAS philosophy has materialized in form of grown up web applications based on 2.0 tech stack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one-to-many model of SAAS(software as a service) is a perfect 2.0 philosophy example. Nothing else has leveraged 2.0 techs more than the software vendors of SAAS products. </p>
<p>Google being the front runner with its product suite consisting of ( GMail, GDocs, GReader etc) has convinced people using desktop clients to shift to web as the working alternative.</p>
<p>Salesforce.com, Oracle On-Demand, Office Live and many others are quintessential of how SAAS philosophy has materialized in form of grown up web applications based on 2.0 tech stack.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@OE: Interesting, I like it.
@Puneet: Lulz, the whole idea of crowdsourcing is to use the lazy web, i.e. I don&#039;t do anything. You do it for me :) Thanks for the suggestions, I especially like &quot;Snazzy UI&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@OE: Interesting, I like it.<br />
@Puneet: Lulz, the whole idea of crowdsourcing is to use the lazy web, i.e. I don&#8217;t do anything. You do it for me <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks for the suggestions, I especially like &#8220;Snazzy UI&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Puneet Thapliyal</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>Puneet Thapliyal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- &quot;Real&quot; Social Networking: Lunch 2.0
- Snazzy UI - Rounded Corners, Metallic Fonts, etc.
- Tag clouds
- Blogrolls

For more ideas Jake, just look at your tag cloud on oracleappslab.com !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- &#8220;Real&#8221; Social Networking: Lunch 2.0<br />
- Snazzy UI &#8211; Rounded Corners, Metallic Fonts, etc.<br />
- Tag clouds<br />
- Blogrolls</p>
<p>For more ideas Jake, just look at your tag cloud on oracleappslab.com !</p>
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		<title>By: Ontario Emperor</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2671</link>
		<dc:creator>Ontario Emperor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you truly want EVERY method to be considered, how about the good ol&#039; meme?

The *opt-in* meme. 

I&#039;m serious. 

If you remove the viral nature of a meme, and instead let people view it and choose whether they want to participate, a meme can be a valuable method for networking and sharing.

Something to think about, at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you truly want EVERY method to be considered, how about the good ol&#8217; meme?</p>
<p>The *opt-in* meme. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m serious. </p>
<p>If you remove the viral nature of a meme, and instead let people view it and choose whether they want to participate, a meme can be a valuable method for networking and sharing.</p>
<p>Something to think about, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2668</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tim/Brian: Good stuff, already a few nuggets that I hadn&#039;t thought of, so w00t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim/Brian: Good stuff, already a few nuggets that I hadn&#8217;t thought of, so w00t!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Fending</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2667</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Fending</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try the Web 2.0 *category* on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Web_2.0

This leads you also in a few additional directions, including:
 - Collective Intelligence (including crowdsourcing),
 - SOA, and 
 - RIA in general.

RIA is especially worth considering because you&#039;re talking about marketing; it changes the interface to such an extent that the concept of a &quot;page&quot; is almost irrelevant. Making that concept even more irrelevant is hot - views, services and actions - until that back button disappears. And SOA, well... there are lots of directions there.

As far as less obvious case studies, try:
 - Amazon Web Services Group
 - lemonade.com
 - FaceBook Badges

And, of course, get some histories from Howard Rheingold&#039;s SMART MOBS and David Weinberger&#039;s SMALL PIECES LOOSELY JOINED. (Available on this thing call Paper. :)

Imho, something that brings two or more disparate systems together, rather than trying to reinvent the best features (with yet another login to maintain that identical data...), is going to be the next killer app.

/BF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try the Web 2.0 *category* on wikipedia: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Web_2.0" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Web_2.0</a></p>
<p>This leads you also in a few additional directions, including:<br />
 &#8211; Collective Intelligence (including crowdsourcing),<br />
 &#8211; SOA, and<br />
 &#8211; RIA in general.</p>
<p>RIA is especially worth considering because you&#8217;re talking about marketing; it changes the interface to such an extent that the concept of a &#8220;page&#8221; is almost irrelevant. Making that concept even more irrelevant is hot &#8211; views, services and actions &#8211; until that back button disappears. And SOA, well&#8230; there are lots of directions there.</p>
<p>As far as less obvious case studies, try:<br />
 &#8211; Amazon Web Services Group<br />
 &#8211; lemonade.com<br />
 &#8211; FaceBook Badges</p>
<p>And, of course, get some histories from Howard Rheingold&#8217;s SMART MOBS and David Weinberger&#8217;s SMALL PIECES LOOSELY JOINED. (Available on this thing call Paper. <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Imho, something that brings two or more disparate systems together, rather than trying to reinvent the best features (with yet another login to maintain that identical data&#8230;), is going to be the next killer app.</p>
<p>/BF</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hall</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2665</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

This is a good place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2

It mentions a whole bunch of stuff including:

social-networking sites (Myspace &amp; Facebook etc.)
social bookmarking (Digg, del.icio.us, StumbleUpon)
podcasts
wikis (Wikipedia :) )
blogs
folksonomies (I guess this is social-tagging/bookmarking)
RSS (syndication)
Mashups
etc.

Cheers

Tim...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>This is a good place to start:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2</a></p>
<p>It mentions a whole bunch of stuff including:</p>
<p>social-networking sites (Myspace &amp; Facebook etc.)<br />
social bookmarking (Digg, del.icio.us, StumbleUpon)<br />
podcasts<br />
wikis (Wikipedia <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )<br />
blogs<br />
folksonomies (I guess this is social-tagging/bookmarking)<br />
RSS (syndication)<br />
Mashups<br />
etc.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Tim&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: OTN TechBlog : </title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/01/28/i-need-your-help/comment-page-1/#comment-2694</link>
		<dc:creator>OTN TechBlog : </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;will convene several times a day to share what they&#039;ve learned implies that innovation is intended to be the brainchild of collaboration.  There will be some challenges however. As a group facilitator (along with radu43 himself - Marius Ciortea - andAppsLab Jake, among others), it could be difficult to draw a clear line between facilitation and participation/leadership. Starting tomorrow, I&#039;ll share my experience with you as best I can - tune in here, or follow me via&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->will convene several times a day to share what they&#8217;ve learned implies that innovation is intended to be the brainchild of collaboration.  There will be some challenges however. As a group facilitator (along with radu43 himself &#8211; Marius Ciortea &#8211; andAppsLab Jake, among others), it could be difficult to draw a clear line between facilitation and participation/leadership. Starting tomorrow, I&#8217;ll share my experience with you as best I can &#8211; tune in here, or follow me via<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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