Comments on: David’s Excellent Adventure http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/ Driving Innovation Wed, 23 May 2012 15:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Why Product Development Should Blog - Part 1 « David Haimes Oracle Intercompany Financials Blog http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-2813 Why Product Development Should Blog - Part 1 « David Haimes Oracle Intercompany Financials Blog Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:07:52 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-2813 [...] those” was his reply, he’s a very active blogger and has already blogged our conversation. This is part 1 in a series of I don’t know how many describing business value in my [...] [...] those” was his reply, he’s a very active blogger and has already blogged our conversation. This is part 1 in a series of I don’t know how many describing business value in my [...]

]]> By: Meg http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-2792 Meg Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:32:07 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-2792 David, better not put sleep too low on the list or you will not be any good at the list items above. Or maybe that is just a personal problem for me. David, better not put sleep too low on the list or you will not be any good at the list items above. Or maybe that is just a personal problem for me.

]]> By: Meg http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-15987 Meg Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:32:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-15987 David, better not put sleep too low on the list or you will not be any good at the list items above. Or maybe that is just a personal problem for me. David, better not put sleep too low on the list or you will not be any good at the list items above. Or maybe that is just a personal problem for me.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-2767 Jake Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:54:05 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-2767 @David: I don't see "Comment on blog posts about me" on that list, must be pretty high. @Nigel: Spot on. My observation about the official documentation was one of surprise. I think democratizing the doc makes it better, a la Wikipedia, so I was surpised and bummed that it's not cool. I agree about exposing the doc to indexing too. The one issue is that someone will have to manage the SEO to keep the official content popping up on the first page. @David: I don’t see “Comment on blog posts about me” on that list, must be pretty high.

@Nigel: Spot on. My observation about the official documentation was one of surprise. I think democratizing the doc makes it better, a la Wikipedia, so I was surpised and bummed that it’s not cool.

I agree about exposing the doc to indexing too. The one issue is that someone will have to manage the SEO to keep the official content popping up on the first page.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-15988 Jake Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:54:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-15988 @David: I don't see "Comment on blog posts about me" on that list, must be pretty high. @Nigel: Spot on. My observation about the official documentation was one of surprise. I think democratizing the doc makes it better, a la Wikipedia, so I was surpised and bummed that it's not cool. I agree about exposing the doc to indexing too. The one issue is that someone will have to manage the SEO to keep the official content popping up on the first page. @David: I don’t see “Comment on blog posts about me” on that list, must be pretty high.

@Nigel: Spot on. My observation about the official documentation was one of surprise. I think democratizing the doc makes it better, a la Wikipedia, so I was surpised and bummed that it’s not cool.

I agree about exposing the doc to indexing too. The one issue is that someone will have to manage the SEO to keep the official content popping up on the first page.

]]> By: Nigel Thomas http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-2766 Nigel Thomas Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:09:55 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-2766 > official documentation cannot be wiki’ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software. Sure you don't want the punters messing with the bible, but that doesn't mean you can't surround official documentation with democratized commentary/annotations ... just so long as the difference is clear. Put your documentation in a searchable format, in bite sized chunks (even chapter by chapter), and it will rise from 4th to 2nd in your list. And help take the strain off your consultants and support (not to mention the customers). Regards Nigel > official documentation cannot be wiki’ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software.

Sure you don’t want the punters messing with the bible, but that doesn’t mean you can’t surround official documentation with democratized commentary/annotations … just so long as the difference is clear.

Put your documentation in a searchable format, in bite sized chunks (even chapter by chapter), and it will rise from 4th to 2nd in your list. And help take the strain off your consultants and support (not to mention the customers).

Regards Nigel

]]> By: Nigel Thomas http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-15992 Nigel Thomas Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:09:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-15992 > official documentation cannot be wiki’ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software. Sure you don't want the punters messing with the bible, but that doesn't mean you can't surround official documentation with democratized commentary/annotations ... just so long as the difference is clear. Put your documentation in a searchable format, in bite sized chunks (even chapter by chapter), and it will rise from 4th to 2nd in your list. And help take the strain off your consultants and support (not to mention the customers). Regards Nigel > official documentation cannot be wiki’ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software.

Sure you don’t want the punters messing with the bible, but that doesn’t mean you can’t surround official documentation with democratized commentary/annotations … just so long as the difference is clear.

Put your documentation in a searchable format, in bite sized chunks (even chapter by chapter), and it will rise from 4th to 2nd in your list. And help take the strain off your consultants and support (not to mention the customers).

Regards Nigel

]]> By: David Haimes http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-2764 David Haimes Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:37:11 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-2764 Not to make excuses but...my priorities at the moment are: 1) Know the names of the people on my new GL team 2) Match those names to a face 3) Understand our project plans 4) Start to add value to the GL development team 5) Get to the know the names of my kids 6) Match those names to faces 7) Blog 8) Eat 9) Sleep Just kidding... - I can eat while I blog. Not to make excuses but…my priorities at the moment are:
1) Know the names of the people on my new GL team
2) Match those names to a face
3) Understand our project plans
4) Start to add value to the GL development team
5) Get to the know the names of my kids
6) Match those names to faces
7) Blog
8) Eat
9) Sleep

Just kidding… – I can eat while I blog.

]]> By: davidhaimes http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-15991 davidhaimes Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:37:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-15991 Not to make excuses but...my priorities at the moment are: 1) Know the names of the people on my new GL team 2) Match those names to a face 3) Understand our project plans 4) Start to add value to the GL development team 5) Get to the know the names of my kids 6) Match those names to faces 7) Blog 8) Eat 9) Sleep Just kidding... - I can eat while I blog. Not to make excuses but…my priorities at the moment are:
1) Know the names of the people on my new GL team
2) Match those names to a face
3) Understand our project plans
4) Start to add value to the GL development team
5) Get to the know the names of my kids
6) Match those names to faces
7) Blog
8) Eat
9) Sleep

Just kidding… – I can eat while I blog.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-2763 Jake Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:11:08 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-2763 Quality and quantity of documentation notwithstanding, the big reason specifically Apps doc isn't higher on the list is that it's provided in pdf form and not indexed by search engines. Searching for database or middleware products provides more Oracle results, but still not as many as you'd expect on the first page. The fact of the matter is that blogging services and software are highly SEO'ed by design so the content you blog will come up higher in results than regular indexed content almost all the time. One interesting tidbit I learned recently was that official documentation cannot be wiki'ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software. Did not know that. Quality and quantity of documentation notwithstanding, the big reason specifically Apps doc isn’t higher on the list is that it’s provided in pdf form and not indexed by search engines.

Searching for database or middleware products provides more Oracle results, but still not as many as you’d expect on the first page.

The fact of the matter is that blogging services and software are highly SEO’ed by design so the content you blog will come up higher in results than regular indexed content almost all the time.

One interesting tidbit I learned recently was that official documentation cannot be wiki’ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software. Did not know that.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-15990 Jake Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:11:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-15990 Quality and quantity of documentation notwithstanding, the big reason specifically Apps doc isn't higher on the list is that it's provided in pdf form and not indexed by search engines. Searching for database or middleware products provides more Oracle results, but still not as many as you'd expect on the first page. The fact of the matter is that blogging services and software are highly SEO'ed by design so the content you blog will come up higher in results than regular indexed content almost all the time. One interesting tidbit I learned recently was that official documentation cannot be wiki'ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software. Did not know that. Quality and quantity of documentation notwithstanding, the big reason specifically Apps doc isn’t higher on the list is that it’s provided in pdf form and not indexed by search engines.

Searching for database or middleware products provides more Oracle results, but still not as many as you’d expect on the first page.

The fact of the matter is that blogging services and software are highly SEO’ed by design so the content you blog will come up higher in results than regular indexed content almost all the time.

One interesting tidbit I learned recently was that official documentation cannot be wiki’ed or democratized because it serves as the warranty for the software. Did not know that.

]]> By: Tim http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-2761 Tim Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:47:27 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-2761 Its a shame that 'Read the documentation' comes in fourth - I know that list is a 'Jake's Take' - hey there's a neat blog title for you! I know historically Oracle has had not such good documentation but we and others try real hard to make the doc as good as possible. We are now suffering from having so much doc ~600pages last time I checked, that I can understand that folks get googling when they want a specific piece of info. We also suffer from the fact that our blog (blowing our own trumpet here) has so much information, ~250 articles, that has not made it into the official doc and has become its own BIP resource on the web. To back that up, the majority of 'Came From' hits to he blog are almost exclusively google searches. Roll on instantly updateable documentation ... Its a shame that ‘Read the documentation’ comes in fourth – I know that list is a ‘Jake’s Take’ – hey there’s a neat blog title for you!
I know historically Oracle has had not such good documentation but we and others try real hard to make the doc as good as possible. We are now suffering from having so much doc ~600pages last time I checked, that I can understand that folks get googling when they want a specific piece of info.
We also suffer from the fact that our blog (blowing our own trumpet here) has so much information, ~250 articles, that has not made it into the official doc and has become its own BIP resource on the web. To back that up, the majority of ‘Came From’ hits to he blog are almost exclusively google searches.
Roll on instantly updateable documentation …

]]> By: Tim http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/comment-page-1/#comment-15989 Tim Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:47:00 +0000 http://theappslab.com/2008/02/06/davids-excellent-adventure/#comment-15989 Its a shame that 'Read the documentation' comes in fourth - I know that list is a 'Jake's Take' - hey there's a neat blog title for you! I know historically Oracle has had not such good documentation but we and others try real hard to make the doc as good as possible. We are now suffering from having so much doc ~600pages last time I checked, that I can understand that folks get googling when they want a specific piece of info. We also suffer from the fact that our blog (blowing our own trumpet here) has so much information, ~250 articles, that has not made it into the official doc and has become its own BIP resource on the web. To back that up, the majority of 'Came From' hits to he blog are almost exclusively google searches. Roll on instantly updateable documentation ... Its a shame that ‘Read the documentation’ comes in fourth – I know that list is a ‘Jake’s Take’ – hey there’s a neat blog title for you!
I know historically Oracle has had not such good documentation but we and others try real hard to make the doc as good as possible. We are now suffering from having so much doc ~600pages last time I checked, that I can understand that folks get googling when they want a specific piece of info.
We also suffer from the fact that our blog (blowing our own trumpet here) has so much information, ~250 articles, that has not made it into the official doc and has become its own BIP resource on the web. To back that up, the majority of ‘Came From’ hits to he blog are almost exclusively google searches.
Roll on instantly updateable documentation …

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