Comments on: The Long Tail of Meetings http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/ Driving Innovation Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:41:10 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Meg http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2899 Meg Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:50:37 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2899 http://despair.com/meetings.html http://despair.com/meetings.html

]]> By: Overheard: Jake Kuramoto explains why I have too many meetings - Overheard in the tech blogosphere http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2873 Overheard: Jake Kuramoto explains why I have too many meetings - Overheard in the tech blogosphere Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:40:15 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2873 [...] Kuramoto, The Long Tail of Meetings One key component of the Long Tail model is that it allows consumers access to more content that [...] [...] Kuramoto, The Long Tail of Meetings One key component of the Long Tail model is that it allows consumers access to more content that [...]

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2842 Jake Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:54:43 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2842 I think meetings should be 30 minutes. I saw somewhere that 30 minute meetings force you to be more focused and on time, i.e. you fear missing the important 25%. This post was more musing than serious. I think meetings should be 30 minutes. I saw somewhere that 30 minute meetings force you to be more focused and on time, i.e. you fear missing the important 25%.

This post was more musing than serious.

]]> By: David Haimes http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2841 David Haimes Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:41:44 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2841 I go to meetings knowing only 15 minutes of the hour will be relevant, if I know when that 15 minutes will be I will show up just for that part. I have no problem walking out of a meeting half way through if the remainder of the agenda is not relevant. Most of the time I don't know when the relevant part is coming, so the iPhone comes in handy. I go to meetings knowing only 15 minutes of the hour will be relevant, if I know when that 15 minutes will be I will show up just for that part. I have no problem walking out of a meeting half way through if the remainder of the agenda is not relevant. Most of the time I don’t know when the relevant part is coming, so the iPhone comes in handy.

]]> By: Ontario Emperor http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2839 Ontario Emperor Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:07:28 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2839 It goes back to what APC mentioned; we need to be present for a part of the meeting, but then tune the rest of the meeting out. The only solution to these mass meetings would be, ironically, MORE meetings. It's better to get all the parties together, hold a single meeting, and tune out on laptops and smartphones on occasion so that you can do some real work (or, alternatively, <a href="http://twitter.com/oemperor/statuses/688604952" rel="nofollow">tweet</a>). It goes back to what APC mentioned; we need to be present for a part of the meeting, but then tune the rest of the meeting out. The only solution to these mass meetings would be, ironically, MORE meetings. It’s better to get all the parties together, hold a single meeting, and tune out on laptops and smartphones on occasion so that you can do some real work (or, alternatively, tweet).

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2836 Jake Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:43:18 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2836 I don't get it, why have the meeting then if most of the attendees aren't mentally present? I don’t get it, why have the meeting then if most of the attendees aren’t mentally present?

]]> By: David Haimes http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2835 David Haimes Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:39:14 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2835 Since we have wi-fi in the glass towers at HQ there has been another shift. I can be physically present yet mentally absent, I can sift through my emails instead of doodling in the margins. People take laptops to meetings and more recently we're all busy on our iPhones in meetings. Since we have wi-fi in the glass towers at HQ there has been another shift. I can be physically present yet mentally absent, I can sift through my emails instead of doodling in the margins. People take laptops to meetings and more recently we’re all busy on our iPhones in meetings.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2830 Jake Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:09:04 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2830 Interesting, maybe my model only applies to distributed workforces like ours. Although I would argue that scarcity does have an impact. When I worked in the glass towers at HQ, we routinely had to work around a scarcity in conference rooms. One interesting difference APC and Floyd note is the number of attendees seems to be high vs. what I see in meetings. We tend toward a smaller number of people, so maybe that's the long tail, or maybe it's a function of distribution again, i.e. no ad hoc huddling. Either way, it's fun to complain about meetings. One wonders how much work could be done if there weren't so many. Interesting, maybe my model only applies to distributed workforces like ours. Although I would argue that scarcity does have an impact. When I worked in the glass towers at HQ, we routinely had to work around a scarcity in conference rooms.

One interesting difference APC and Floyd note is the number of attendees seems to be high vs. what I see in meetings. We tend toward a smaller number of people, so maybe that’s the long tail, or maybe it’s a function of distribution again, i.e. no ad hoc huddling.

Either way, it’s fun to complain about meetings. One wonders how much work could be done if there weren’t so many.

]]> By: Floyd http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2827 Floyd Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:48:23 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2827 I'm right there with APC - stuck in Web 1.0 meeting purgatory. In addition, the meeting frequency is so high that it's difficult to find time for "hands on" work during traditional office hours. Despite the all-too-infrequent tidbit of info I might care about, I emerge from most meetings in my shop feeling as though I've been through a virtual lobotomy. My point: it's not just the number of meetings and the physical presence aspect that is disturbing, it's also the length and quality of those meetings. I’m right there with APC – stuck in Web 1.0 meeting purgatory. In addition, the meeting frequency is so high that it’s difficult to find time for “hands on” work during traditional office hours. Despite the all-too-infrequent tidbit of info I might care about, I emerge from most meetings in my shop feeling as though I’ve been through a virtual lobotomy. My point: it’s not just the number of meetings and the physical presence aspect that is disturbing, it’s also the length and quality of those meetings.

]]> By: APC http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2823 APC Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:19:00 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2823 Personally I'm still stuck in the Web1.0 meeting paradigm: lots of people gathered together in a single room. This model usually means that there is usually a chunk of the meeting which I'm interested in and a much bigger chunk that doesn't concern me. But I still have to be in the room, because the interesting bits are sprinkled throughout the meeting: more curate's egg than long tail. The appeal of virtual meetings is that by abolishing the need to be physically co-located we can be mentally absent too. We can get on with something useful while keeping a weather eye/ear on the meeting's stream. Of course, the useful task mustn't be something too important (no brain surgery, bomb defusing or tweak data in the production database). But anything would be more productive than abstract doodling in the margins of a notebook. Cheers, APC Personally I’m still stuck in the Web1.0 meeting paradigm: lots of people gathered together in a single room. This model usually means that there is usually a chunk of the meeting which I’m interested in and a much bigger chunk that doesn’t concern me. But I still have to be in the room, because the interesting bits are sprinkled throughout the meeting: more curate’s egg than long tail.

The appeal of virtual meetings is that by abolishing the need to be physically co-located we can be mentally absent too. We can get on with something useful while keeping a weather eye/ear on the meeting’s stream. Of course, the useful task mustn’t be something too important (no brain surgery, bomb defusing or tweak data in the production database). But anything would be more productive than abstract doodling in the margins of a notebook.

Cheers, APC

]]> By: Shishir http://theappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/comment-page-1/#comment-2817 Shishir Fri, 08 Feb 2008 09:46:05 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/2008/02/08/the-long-tail-of-meetings/#comment-2817 Interesting thought there . And Indeed, many thanks to factors that led to democratization of meeting tools. But still, apart from the technology aspect I think the shift in collaborative tendencies of people in general, increasing complexities of work (which eventually means more discussion points) and decentralization of work places are key drivers of the long tail. Interesting thought there . And Indeed, many thanks to factors that led to democratization of meeting tools. But still, apart from the technology aspect I think the shift in collaborative tendencies of people in general, increasing complexities of work (which eventually means more discussion points) and decentralization of work places are key drivers of the long tail.

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