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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-3665</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin: Google and Salesforce have advanced the ASP model. By your definition, SFDC is an enterprise app for business-critical data, and it&#039;s outsourced and managed in the cloud. Google Apps can handle enterprise data from SFDC, so even by a narrow definition, these are enterprise apps.

I don&#039;t think (and didn&#039;t say) Google would kill MSFT. They&#039;re very smart to pitch themselves as complimentary and not competitive with the Office business. MSFT recognizes the threat though, and so should all enterprise software companies.

I concede your point that some businesses will never go into the cloud. For them, Google can go with on-premise appliances like the Mini and GSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin: Google and Salesforce have advanced the ASP model. By your definition, SFDC is an enterprise app for business-critical data, and it&#8217;s outsourced and managed in the cloud. Google Apps can handle enterprise data from SFDC, so even by a narrow definition, these are enterprise apps.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think (and didn&#8217;t say) Google would kill MSFT. They&#8217;re very smart to pitch themselves as complimentary and not competitive with the Office business. MSFT recognizes the threat though, and so should all enterprise software companies.</p>
<p>I concede your point that some businesses will never go into the cloud. For them, Google can go with on-premise appliances like the Mini and GSA.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-16273</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin: Google and Salesforce have advanced the ASP model. By your definition, SFDC is an enterprise app for business-critical data, and it&#039;s outsourced and managed in the cloud. Google Apps can handle enterprise data from SFDC, so even by a narrow definition, these are enterprise apps.

I don&#039;t think (and didn&#039;t say) Google would kill MSFT. They&#039;re very smart to pitch themselves as complimentary and not competitive with the Office business. MSFT recognizes the threat though, and so should all enterprise software companies.

I concede your point that some businesses will never go into the cloud. For them, Google can go with on-premise appliances like the Mini and GSA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin: Google and Salesforce have advanced the ASP model. By your definition, SFDC is an enterprise app for business-critical data, and it&#8217;s outsourced and managed in the cloud. Google Apps can handle enterprise data from SFDC, so even by a narrow definition, these are enterprise apps.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think (and didn&#8217;t say) Google would kill MSFT. They&#8217;re very smart to pitch themselves as complimentary and not competitive with the Office business. MSFT recognizes the threat though, and so should all enterprise software companies.</p>
<p>I concede your point that some businesses will never go into the cloud. For them, Google can go with on-premise appliances like the Mini and GSA.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kestelyn</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-3658</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Kestelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to get definitions straight: If the app doesn&#039;t involve enterprise data, it&#039;s not an enterprise app.

We learned a lesson years back when the concept of a hosted business intelligence apps/DWs emerged (remember &quot;ASPs&quot;?): Enterprises simply do not want to outsource management of business-critical data.

Can Google potentially kill MSFT&#039;s Office business someday (OpenOffice hasn&#039;t yet)? Sure. But that&#039;s not &quot;enterprise computing&quot; IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to get definitions straight: If the app doesn&#8217;t involve enterprise data, it&#8217;s not an enterprise app.</p>
<p>We learned a lesson years back when the concept of a hosted business intelligence apps/DWs emerged (remember &#8220;ASPs&#8221;?): Enterprises simply do not want to outsource management of business-critical data.</p>
<p>Can Google potentially kill MSFT&#8217;s Office business someday (OpenOffice hasn&#8217;t yet)? Sure. But that&#8217;s not &#8220;enterprise computing&#8221; IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kestelyn</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-16272</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Kestelyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to get definitions straight: If the app doesn&#039;t involve enterprise data, it&#039;s not an enterprise app.

We learned a lesson years back when the concept of a hosted business intelligence apps/DWs emerged (remember &quot;ASPs&quot;?): Enterprises simply do not want to outsource management of business-critical data.

Can Google potentially kill MSFT&#039;s Office business someday (OpenOffice hasn&#039;t yet)? Sure. But that&#039;s not &quot;enterprise computing&quot; IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to get definitions straight: If the app doesn&#8217;t involve enterprise data, it&#8217;s not an enterprise app.</p>
<p>We learned a lesson years back when the concept of a hosted business intelligence apps/DWs emerged (remember &#8220;ASPs&#8221;?): Enterprises simply do not want to outsource management of business-critical data.</p>
<p>Can Google potentially kill MSFT&#8217;s Office business someday (OpenOffice hasn&#8217;t yet)? Sure. But that&#8217;s not &#8220;enterprise computing&#8221; IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-3612</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dennis: While the finer points differ, Justin and Ameed don&#039;t see Google pushing into the enterprise, so they share the view you and Josh espouse.

I&#039;ve blogged the opposite opinion, and I still hold it. I&#039;m curious to expand the discussion with Ameed and Justin in person. I will be sure to blog or tweet you the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dennis: While the finer points differ, Justin and Ameed don&#8217;t see Google pushing into the enterprise, so they share the view you and Josh espouse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve blogged the opposite opinion, and I still hold it. I&#8217;m curious to expand the discussion with Ameed and Justin in person. I will be sure to blog or tweet you the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-16271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dennis: While the finer points differ, Justin and Ameed don&#039;t see Google pushing into the enterprise, so they share the view you and Josh espouse.

I&#039;ve blogged the opposite opinion, and I still hold it. I&#039;m curious to expand the discussion with Ameed and Justin in person. I will be sure to blog or tweet you the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dennis: While the finer points differ, Justin and Ameed don&#8217;t see Google pushing into the enterprise, so they share the view you and Josh espouse.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve blogged the opposite opinion, and I still hold it. I&#8217;m curious to expand the discussion with Ameed and Justin in person. I will be sure to blog or tweet you the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Howlett</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-3611</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Howlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to see the feedback on whatever ammunition you think Josh and I are giving you folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to see the feedback on whatever ammunition you think Josh and I are giving you folks.</p>
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		<title>By: dahowlett</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-16270</link>
		<dc:creator>dahowlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to see the feedback on whatever ammunition you think Josh and I are giving you folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to see the feedback on whatever ammunition you think Josh and I are giving you folks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-3606</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Floyd: Not if I see you first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Floyd: Not if I see you first.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-16269</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Floyd: Not if I see you first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Floyd: Not if I see you first.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-3604</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See you at the ACE dinner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See you at the ACE dinner!</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2008/04/11/rocky-mountain-hi/comment-page-1/#comment-16268</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See you at the ACE dinner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See you at the ACE dinner!</p>
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