Comments on: Even More Fun with Numbers http://theappslab.com/2008/06/10/even-more-fun-with-numbers/ Driving Innovation Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:33:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/10/even-more-fun-with-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-5072 Jake Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:24:45 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=871#comment-5072 You won't catch me calling Mix Enterprise 2.0, and I don't really think it is. Mix is Web 2.0 and targeted at Oracle consumers.<br><br>That said, I don't have the metrics you mention, although it would rock if I could get them. We're planning to add features to track the lifecycle of ideas, which I hope will help with adoption.<br><br>2.0 of all kinds is slowly gaining momentum, but it's not mainstream. So, adoption is hard to track. Some teams use Mix a lot for all kinds of community activity, but many don't even know it exists and probably won't jump in wholesale even when the hear about it.<br><br>Check back in six months, and maybe we'll have those metrics. Assuming we're still here :) You won't catch me calling Mix Enterprise 2.0, and I don't really think it is. Mix is Web 2.0 and targeted at Oracle consumers.

That said, I don't have the metrics you mention, although it would rock if I could get them. We're planning to add features to track the lifecycle of ideas, which I hope will help with adoption.

2.0 of all kinds is slowly gaining momentum, but it's not mainstream. So, adoption is hard to track. Some teams use Mix a lot for all kinds of community activity, but many don't even know it exists and probably won't jump in wholesale even when the hear about it.

Check back in six months, and maybe we'll have those metrics. Assuming we're still here :)

]]> By: Jim http://theappslab.com/2008/06/10/even-more-fun-with-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-5071 Jim Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:32:28 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=871#comment-5071 Especially in the context of "ENTERPRISE 2.0" you've left off the truly meaningful stats. Things like:<br><br> "what got done" -how many ideas got implemented?<br><br> "how much money did we make/save" - are there any ideas that have been turned into new products/revenue? did you make this a faster/cheaper way to get things into the official ER system, or did you add work to monitor two systems?<br><br>"customer satisfaction" - do people have a better image of the company now and feel more connected to product development? are they more likely to recommend Oracle products and services?<br><br>By only focusing on usage data and input volumes it propagates the negative connotation that a lot of people have (though I DON'T agree) about Enterprise 2.0 tech, which is "yes it will be very popular, lots of stuff will go in, but we'll get nothing usable out of it". Remember, Enterprise 2.0 is still about RESULTS, not popularity. Especially in the context of “ENTERPRISE 2.0″ you've left off the truly meaningful stats. Things like:

“what got done” -how many ideas got implemented?

“how much money did we make/save” - are there any ideas that have been turned into new products/revenue? did you make this a faster/cheaper way to get things into the official ER system, or did you add work to monitor two systems?

“customer satisfaction” - do people have a better image of the company now and feel more connected to product development? are they more likely to recommend Oracle products and services?

By only focusing on usage data and input volumes it propagates the negative connotation that a lot of people have (though I DON'T agree) about Enterprise 2.0 tech, which is “yes it will be very popular, lots of stuff will go in, but we'll get nothing usable out of it”. Remember, Enterprise 2.0 is still about RESULTS, not popularity.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/10/even-more-fun-with-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-5076 Jake Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:40:40 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=871#comment-5076 I've never used the graphing functions in BIP. I'm happy to give it a try, but I'll need some assistance. I've never used the graphing functions in BIP. I'm happy to give it a try, but I'll need some assistance.

]]> By: Tim http://theappslab.com/2008/06/10/even-more-fun-with-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-5075 Tim Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:05:40 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=871#comment-5075 Nah ... you need Publisher :0) Nah … you need Publisher :0)

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2008/06/10/even-more-fun-with-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-5074 Jake Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:50:00 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=871#comment-5074 I know about APEX, know people here that work on it (Carl Backstrom, Tyler Muth), but it didn't occur to me to try it. Finding an environment might be an issue. I'll ping those guys to see if they have test beds I can use.<br><br>Thanks for the protip. I know about APEX, know people here that work on it (Carl Backstrom, Tyler Muth), but it didn't occur to me to try it. Finding an environment might be an issue. I'll ping those guys to see if they have test beds I can use.

Thanks for the protip.

]]> By: noelportugal http://theappslab.com/2008/06/10/even-more-fun-with-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-5073 noelportugal Wed, 11 Jun 2008 07:13:43 +0000 http://oracleappslab.com/?p=871#comment-5073 Jake, have you tried Oracle APEX? This kind of reporting can be easily done with APEX. It does also offer some nice charting features (flash) that even do asynchronous calls (AJAX). You can setup a personal APEX environment for yourself with Oracle XE or hosted on a public server...The possibilities are endless(http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/web2.0.html). Not sure if it will fit you at this point, but just a friendly thought... Jake, have you tried Oracle APEX? This kind of reporting can be easily done with APEX. It does also offer some nice charting features (flash) that even do asynchronous calls (AJAX). You can setup a personal APEX environment for yourself with Oracle XE or hosted on a public server…The possibilities are endless(http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/application_express/html/web2.0.html). Not sure if it will fit you at this point, but just a friendly thought…

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