Comments on: More on Social Search http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/ Driving Innovation Thu, 24 May 2012 14:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7835 Jake Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:28:50 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-7835 Thanks for dropping by Carlo. We us our networks, Connect and OraTweet, which makes the algorithm tweaking easier.<br><br>I've noticed social search growing in momentum over the last year as mainstream adoption has driven usage. It's inevitable. Thanks for dropping by Carlo. We us our networks, Connect and OraTweet, which makes the algorithm tweaking easier.

I've noticed social search growing in momentum over the last year as mainstream adoption has driven usage. It's inevitable.

]]> By: Carlo Velten http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-7832 Carlo Velten Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:17:11 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-7832 Hi Jake - thanks for the great ideas and discussion points on social search at work! At Qitera we have also made the experience that social search works best in the enterprise. As long as relevance is mostly determined by context - social search in organisations makes sense. Currently we are facing the challenge that most social content is produced in non-enterprise apps like Facebook, Twitter and Co. Thereby it is tough to define clean ranking algorithms....and the compliance stuff is tricky too...<br><br>Is your team actively developing enterprise social search technologies? <br><br>would be great to get in touch...you can check out our service at <a href="http://www.qitera.com" rel="nofollow">www.qitera.com</a><br><br>best,<br>carlo Hi Jake – thanks for the great ideas and discussion points on social search at work! At Qitera we have also made the experience that social search works best in the enterprise. As long as relevance is mostly determined by context – social search in organisations makes sense. Currently we are facing the challenge that most social content is produced in non-enterprise apps like Facebook, Twitter and Co. Thereby it is tough to define clean ranking algorithms….and the compliance stuff is tricky too…

Is your team actively developing enterprise social search technologies?

would be great to get in touch…you can check out our service at http://www.qitera.com

best,
carlo

]]> By: Traditional Enterprise Search Meets E2.0 « Word of Pie http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-6207 Traditional Enterprise Search Meets E2.0 « Word of Pie Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:27:29 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-6207 [...] enterprise search engines.  The post that inspired Bex, Social Search Wins, and its follow-up, explore how these Web 2.0 concepts can help users find things in their environment by grading [...] [...] enterprise search engines.  The post that inspired Bex, Social Search Wins, and its follow-up, explore how these Web 2.0 concepts can help users find things in their environment by grading [...]

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-6125 Jake Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:42:26 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-6125 Yeah, I saw that in my reader earlier today. At some point soon (12-18 months), the networks are going to have to pour buckets of money into better security and authentication and controls to keep out the baddies.<br><br>Exactly why some people only consume within the firewall, not that it's 100% safe and secure, but at least you're protected by HR and Legal. Yeah, I saw that in my reader earlier today. At some point soon (12-18 months), the networks are going to have to pour buckets of money into better security and authentication and controls to keep out the baddies.

Exactly why some people only consume within the firewall, not that it's 100% safe and secure, but at least you're protected by HR and Legal.

]]> By: joel garry http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-6123 joel garry Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:28:40 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-6123 Sortasyncronicity - this digg is on the right column of this page: <a href="http://feeds.digg.com/%7Er/digg/container/technology/popular/%7E3/IbLVPvjHB6I/Not_Among_Friends_The_Dangers_of_Social_Networks" rel="nofollow">http://feeds.digg.com/~r/digg/container/technol...</a> Sortasyncronicity – this digg is on the right column of this page: http://feeds.digg.com/~r/digg/container/technol…

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-6121 Jake Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:00:31 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-6121 There definitely will need to be a way to draw people into participating beyond just asking them and talking about how useful it is. What you suggest might work, and there are some other tools that we can use to nudge people into interacting.<br><br>I'm hoping to test this out a bit on Connect first. There definitely will need to be a way to draw people into participating beyond just asking them and talking about how useful it is. What you suggest might work, and there are some other tools that we can use to nudge people into interacting.

I'm hoping to test this out a bit on Connect first.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-6120 Jake Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:54:52 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-6120 Yeah, they could do a lot with discovery to help you find new information. This would be a way to push their own bookmarking service.<br><br>Maybe Yahoo will finally do something with Delicious :) Don't hold your breath though. Yeah, they could do a lot with discovery to help you find new information. This would be a way to push their own bookmarking service.

Maybe Yahoo will finally do something with Delicious :) Don't hold your breath though.

]]> By: Hutch Carpenter http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-6119 Hutch Carpenter Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:02:01 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-6119 Jake - this is something that I think works well inside an enterprise as well. For a couple reasons:<br><br>1. You hit on the creepiness factor. It's more natural inside an organization.<br>2. The need to have access to actions that provide the implicit social graph.<br><br>On #2, let me elaborate. Not everyone is going to take the time to update their explicit connections. A better solution is to capture connections between people based on what they do normally. If I'm regularly clicking/rating/commenting on your content, there's a good chance you're at least part of my "informaiton graph" if not my social graph as well.<br><br>Next time I run a search, it would make sense to see your content at the head of the line if you have something related.<br><br>I also think of another aspect. Even if your content is of lower quality (i.e. few ratings, clicks or comments), there's a good argument that it should be included higher in my search results assuming you are stronger in my social graph. Why? Because I'm comfortable reaching out to you for more information to make up for shortfalls in the information your content provides. We can discuss what I'm looking for. I won't do that with a colleague whom I don't know from elsewhere in the organization. <br><br>I articulate this more fully in this blog post, Social-Filtered Search: <a href="http://bit.ly/42pjnQ" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/42pjnQ</a><br><br>BTW - I was formerly the product marketing manager for BEA Systems Pathways social search. Which is now Oracle, of course! Jake – this is something that I think works well inside an enterprise as well. For a couple reasons:

1. You hit on the creepiness factor. It's more natural inside an organization.
2. The need to have access to actions that provide the implicit social graph.

On #2, let me elaborate. Not everyone is going to take the time to update their explicit connections. A better solution is to capture connections between people based on what they do normally. If I'm regularly clicking/rating/commenting on your content, there's a good chance you're at least part of my “informaiton graph” if not my social graph as well.

Next time I run a search, it would make sense to see your content at the head of the line if you have something related.

I also think of another aspect. Even if your content is of lower quality (i.e. few ratings, clicks or comments), there's a good argument that it should be included higher in my search results assuming you are stronger in my social graph. Why? Because I'm comfortable reaching out to you for more information to make up for shortfalls in the information your content provides. We can discuss what I'm looking for. I won't do that with a colleague whom I don't know from elsewhere in the organization.

I articulate this more fully in this blog post, Social-Filtered Search: http://bit.ly/42pjnQ

BTW – I was formerly the product marketing manager for BEA Systems Pathways social search. Which is now Oracle, of course!

]]> By: andrejk http://theappslab.com/2009/02/17/more-on-social-search/comment-page-1/#comment-6118 andrejk Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:54:48 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2461#comment-6118 On a smaller scale: the smallest, but most trusted, social network is my own social data. I think it would be very useful if google would use my delicious bookmarks, or friendfeed data, when it returns search results. Anything i bookmarked with delicious should score high in google results if it is relevant to my search terms. On a smaller scale: the smallest, but most trusted, social network is my own social data. I think it would be very useful if google would use my delicious bookmarks, or friendfeed data, when it returns search results. Anything i bookmarked with delicious should score high in google results if it is relevant to my search terms.

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