Comments on: APEX in the Cloud http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/ Driving Innovation Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:43:00 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6332 Jake Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:58:55 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2565#comment-6332 Ah, great. This makes sense. Thanks for breaking it down for us. Good stuff. Ah, great. This makes sense. Thanks for breaking it down for us. Good stuff.

]]> By: Jason http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6329 Jason Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:12:16 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2565#comment-6329 I should have been more clear about the pricing. The original post was based on a 20/cent per hour machine. I estimated that it would take 3 hours to startup the instance, upgrade Application Express to 3.2, and then complete the 3.2 specific OBE's. You can then shut down the instance and only be out 60 cents.<br><br>My follow-up post was about making the database persist, and moving it to a cheaper, 10 cent/hour machine. I should have been more clear about the pricing. The original post was based on a 20/cent per hour machine. I estimated that it would take 3 hours to startup the instance, upgrade Application Express to 3.2, and then complete the 3.2 specific OBE's. You can then shut down the instance and only be out 60 cents.

My follow-up post was about making the database persist, and moving it to a cheaper, 10 cent/hour machine.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6314 Jake Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:54:45 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2565#comment-6314 Very nice. I've seen the EC2 pricing, but the 60 cents figure for APEX wasn't (and isn't) clear to me. Sounds like you're doing a lot with AWS. Interested to hear your experiences, especially if/when you spin up EBS on EC2.<br><br>Very, very interested. I've been wondering how long it would take for a customer to do that. Very nice. I've seen the EC2 pricing, but the 60 cents figure for APEX wasn't (and isn't) clear to me. Sounds like you're doing a lot with AWS. Interested to hear your experiences, especially if/when you spin up EBS on EC2.

Very, very interested. I've been wondering how long it would take for a customer to do that.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6313 Jake Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:51:09 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2565#comment-6313 How was scorpions different than AWS? Did they handle the hosting too? Or are you just shaking your fist at the past :) Your app reminded me of a beef I have with APEX. The URLs are very unfriendly. Very. How was scorpions different than AWS? Did they handle the hosting too? Or are you just shaking your fist at the past :) Your app reminded me of a beef I have with APEX. The URLs are very unfriendly. Very.

]]> By: Mark http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6311 Mark Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:04:13 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2565#comment-6311 Hi Jake,<br> You can use ElasticFox or the new AWS Management console that Amazon has in Beta. You can get a small server for 10 cents per hour, all the way up to a big one at the 80 cents per hour mark. You can spool up one of the Oracle AMI's and run it, but be aware if you bundle it and use it for your own when you start it back up you have to go change the hostname in the listener.ora file (the hostname changes every time you startup the image) or if you pay for an Elastic IP you could use that, but there is a charge for those when they are in use and when not. Here is a link to the price lists:<br><a href="http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing" rel="nofollow">http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing</a> . You can also find out a ton of stuff on <a href="http://aws.amazon.com" rel="nofollow">aws.amazon.com</a> (but I'm sure you knew that). From my testing APEX on EC2 runs fine (have only tested XE with it). Nothing in production yet, still wrestling with issues around how to make the server part of our corporate network.<br>I've been experimenting with Oracle Ebusiness Suite on EC2, but no prototype up and running yet. Hi Jake,
You can use ElasticFox or the new AWS Management console that Amazon has in Beta. You can get a small server for 10 cents per hour, all the way up to a big one at the 80 cents per hour mark. You can spool up one of the Oracle AMI's and run it, but be aware if you bundle it and use it for your own when you start it back up you have to go change the hostname in the listener.ora file (the hostname changes every time you startup the image) or if you pay for an Elastic IP you could use that, but there is a charge for those when they are in use and when not. Here is a link to the price lists:
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/#pricing . You can also find out a ton of stuff on aws.amazon.com (but I'm sure you knew that). From my testing APEX on EC2 runs fine (have only tested XE with it). Nothing in production yet, still wrestling with issues around how to make the server part of our corporate network.
I've been experimenting with Oracle Ebusiness Suite on EC2, but no prototype up and running yet.

]]> By: chet http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6310 chet Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:50:17 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2565#comment-6310 You know what I would liked to have seen? Oracle hosted applications (database) in the Cloud. I looked and looked, even calling Oracle. I just had a small app (<a href="http://ufalumnialley.com" rel="nofollow">ufalumnialley.com</a>) that friends wanted me to build...I knew Oracle and it was "easy." But no go. I ended up finding, I think, <a href="http://scorpions.net" rel="nofollow">scorpions.net</a>, which went out of business about 6 months after I started using them.<br><br>I keep spinning up images via AWS, but I've yet to actually log in to the database. I'll get there soon enough. <br><br>I love what people are doing now. Probably a bigger reason I didn't jump on it is because it's just the natural extension of the database now (11g anyway). No other parts needed. You know what I would liked to have seen? Oracle hosted applications (database) in the Cloud. I looked and looked, even calling Oracle. I just had a small app (ufalumnialley.com) that friends wanted me to build…I knew Oracle and it was “easy.” But no go. I ended up finding, I think, scorpions.net, which went out of business about 6 months after I started using them.

I keep spinning up images via AWS, but I've yet to actually log in to the database. I'll get there soon enough.

I love what people are doing now. Probably a bigger reason I didn't jump on it is because it's just the natural extension of the database now (11g anyway). No other parts needed.

]]> By: chet http://theappslab.com/2009/03/12/apex-in-the-cloud/comment-page-1/#comment-6309 chet Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:46:19 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2565#comment-6309 I saw it...I just didn't connect the dots. Thank's for pointing out my lack of worth. ;) I saw it…I just didn't connect the dots. Thank's for pointing out my lack of worth. ;)

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