Comments on: Musings on Relationship Symmetry in the Enterprise http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/ Driving Innovation Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:43:00 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-8110 Jake Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:59:47 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-8110 Not sure if we're talking about relationship models or reputation here :)<br><br>We have the platform (Connect) and the data (two years' worth), so the next logical step is to focus on reporting and reputation.<br><br>Re. relationship models, I'm skeptical that in a pure social network context like FB, that people in an enterprise would use the stalking model. I guess maybe after they get used to it on FB . . . dunno. Not sure if we're talking about relationship models or reputation here :)

We have the platform (Connect) and the data (two years' worth), so the next logical step is to focus on reporting and reputation.

Re. relationship models, I'm skeptical that in a pure social network context like FB, that people in an enterprise would use the stalking model. I guess maybe after they get used to it on FB . . . dunno.

]]> By: paolo http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-8109 paolo Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:42:58 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-8109 We are developing and experimenting with Taolin <a href="http://taolin.fbk.eu" rel="nofollow">http://taolin.fbk.eu</a> in the research institute where i work (~400 people) <a href="http://www.fbk.eu" rel="nofollow">http://www.fbk.eu</a><br><br>But we don't have any definitive result for now! ;)<br><br>I guess you already know but IBM research has done a lot of different work in the area: beehive (one platform, generated many papers, search "DiMicco"), but they are also testing other platforms internally, the ones they sell but also others. We are developing and experimenting with Taolin http://taolin.fbk.eu in the research institute where i work (~400 people) http://www.fbk.eu

But we don't have any definitive result for now! ;)

I guess you already know but IBM research has done a lot of different work in the area: beehive (one platform, generated many papers, search “DiMicco”), but they are also testing other platforms internally, the ones they sell but also others.

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-8108 Jake Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:32:43 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-8108 We're experimenting with both models inside the firewall via Connect and OraTweet. I'm still not convinced that the asymmetric model will take off inside a company, but the recent influx of people on Twitter has me rethinking the value of that model altogether. We're experimenting with both models inside the firewall via Connect and OraTweet. I'm still not convinced that the asymmetric model will take off inside a company, but the recent influx of people on Twitter has me rethinking the value of that model altogether.

]]> By: paolo http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-8105 paolo Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:53:38 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-8105 Very interesting!<br>Imposing symmetry maps a totally different social relationship.<br><br>For example on essembly:<br> * friends must confirm (symmetric relationship)<br> * allies and nemeses don't have to (asymmetric rel)<br><br>on facebook:<br> * friends must confirm (symmetric relationship)<br> * fans don't have to (asymmetric rel)<br><br>I'm friend of May Bro (my brother), I'm fan of Barack Obama ;) Very interesting!
Imposing symmetry maps a totally different social relationship.

For example on essembly:
* friends must confirm (symmetric relationship)
* allies and nemeses don't have to (asymmetric rel)

on facebook:
* friends must confirm (symmetric relationship)
* fans don't have to (asymmetric rel)

I'm friend of May Bro (my brother), I'm fan of Barack Obama ;)

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-6784 Jake Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:17:12 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-6784 I think they also lifted the Scoble limit (5,000) in the most recent redesign. I think they also lifted the Scoble limit (5,000) in the most recent redesign.

]]> By: John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises) http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-6781 John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises) Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:41:45 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-6781 I had forgotten about Pages, which is a follow model (and breaks the old friend limit). I had forgotten about Pages, which is a follow model (and breaks the old friend limit).

]]> By: Jake http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-6771 Jake Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:16:31 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-6771 Lulz, all I heard was Facebook and Wal Mart.<br><br>Facebook shifted toward a famous follow model in the last redesign with Pages becoming more like profiles. I never really cared for Pages.<br><br>I suppose the enterprise will eventually need both friend/follow models, but it's still too soon to try IMO. Lulz, all I heard was Facebook and Wal Mart.

Facebook shifted toward a famous follow model in the last redesign with Pages becoming more like profiles. I never really cared for Pages.

I suppose the enterprise will eventually need both friend/follow models, but it's still too soon to try IMO.

]]> By: John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises) http://theappslab.com/2009/04/15/musings-on-relationship-symmetry-in-the-enterprise/comment-page-1/#comment-6764 John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises) Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:39:58 +0000 http://theappslab.com/?p=2757#comment-6764 Quick comment - a shift by Facebook from the friend to the follow model would be a major cultural change for Facebook, which has to date emphasized real relationships. Then again, Wal Mart used to trumpet "we buy American" and then shifted its model in a heartbeat, so presumably Facebook could do the same.<br><br>Regarding enterprise applications, it would depend on the company and the way in which it chose to broadcast information. While my former employer had internal social media tools, it chose to broadcast via e-mail. If, however, the CEO of a Fortune 500 company chose to use the internal tools to communicate with his/her employees, a follow model would make more sense. However, if the internal tools are primarily used for collaboration rather than broadcasting, a friend model makes more sense.<br><br>Oh, and not to brag or anything, but Barack Obama followed me on my old Twitter account. :) Quick comment – a shift by Facebook from the friend to the follow model would be a major cultural change for Facebook, which has to date emphasized real relationships. Then again, Wal Mart used to trumpet “we buy American” and then shifted its model in a heartbeat, so presumably Facebook could do the same.

Regarding enterprise applications, it would depend on the company and the way in which it chose to broadcast information. While my former employer had internal social media tools, it chose to broadcast via e-mail. If, however, the CEO of a Fortune 500 company chose to use the internal tools to communicate with his/her employees, a follow model would make more sense. However, if the internal tools are primarily used for collaboration rather than broadcasting, a friend model makes more sense.

Oh, and not to brag or anything, but Barack Obama followed me on my old Twitter account. :)

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