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		<title>By: Do You DIY? &#124; Oracle</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/05/07/2009-year-of-the-side-project/comment-page-1/#comment-9020</link>
		<dc:creator>Do You DIY? &#124; Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a theory that people who like hacking around with tech and starting numerous side projects in their free time also generally like doing meat-life projects themselves [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a theory that people who like hacking around with tech and starting numerous side projects in their free time also generally like doing meat-life projects themselves [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/05/07/2009-year-of-the-side-project/comment-page-1/#comment-7099</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I keep my side projects to stuff that I enjoy and won&#039;t conflict. Easier that way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve always wanted to tinker with cars, not sure why. Probably the same thing about me that wants to solve problems with software. The same urge drives me to tinker around the house.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not a Corvette enthusiast, just really like the 50s models. Share those pics when you get them digitized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I keep my side projects to stuff that I enjoy and won&#39;t conflict. Easier that way.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve always wanted to tinker with cars, not sure why. Probably the same thing about me that wants to solve problems with software. The same urge drives me to tinker around the house.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not a Corvette enthusiast, just really like the 50s models. Share those pics when you get them digitized.</p>
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		<title>By: joel garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>joel garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 04:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most companies I&#039;ve worked for make you sign your intellectual property life away, don&#039;t know about Oracle, but it usually refers to whatever business the company is in.  When I&#039;ve been indie, I got much work where other people had kept ownership of modifications of third-party apps, and customers would prefer hiring me to do work that they could own over paying someone slimy to install something they had written for someone else.  I never wanted to do a software side project &#039;cause I always had too many projects going as it was.  Sometimes did fun stuff if a company supported it (like &quot;where to go for lunch?&quot; generators) but that kind of support was always rare.   I don&#039;t consider usenet/oracle forums a side project, since it is so close to my vocation, but probably should.  My rationalization is showing :-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My side projects have tended to be explicitly non-software, usually automotive or real estate related.  The latter has been a similar magnitude to 401K and similar investments, with about an order of magnitude better return (varying with the obvious economic vicissitudes, but % diff quite stable over 30 years).  Cars are old depreciable things, do those only for love, not money, though some thought can save a lot of money, especially when someone else&#039;s love doesn&#039;t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, I was a Corvette expert, though I&#039;ve started to forget things since kids took priority.  I have a big box of pix from my 35mm days I haven&#039;t scanned in yet.  But I lost the one video of me racing, dammit, I noticed because that was the first thing I got off my butt to digitize.  Prolly got put in a Barney box on &quot;clean everything up the maids are coming&quot; day and given to charity...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Haven&#039;t been to Michigan, though, so I probably don&#039;t know the car in your pic, though I have met a number of Corvette Engineers from there, who may.  Corvetteomania is a fun obsession.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most companies I&#39;ve worked for make you sign your intellectual property life away, don&#39;t know about Oracle, but it usually refers to whatever business the company is in.  When I&#39;ve been indie, I got much work where other people had kept ownership of modifications of third-party apps, and customers would prefer hiring me to do work that they could own over paying someone slimy to install something they had written for someone else.  I never wanted to do a software side project &#39;cause I always had too many projects going as it was.  Sometimes did fun stuff if a company supported it (like &#8220;where to go for lunch?&#8221; generators) but that kind of support was always rare.   I don&#39;t consider usenet/oracle forums a side project, since it is so close to my vocation, but probably should.  My rationalization is showing <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My side projects have tended to be explicitly non-software, usually automotive or real estate related.  The latter has been a similar magnitude to 401K and similar investments, with about an order of magnitude better return (varying with the obvious economic vicissitudes, but % diff quite stable over 30 years).  Cars are old depreciable things, do those only for love, not money, though some thought can save a lot of money, especially when someone else&#39;s love doesn&#39;t.</p>
<p>Yes, I was a Corvette expert, though I&#39;ve started to forget things since kids took priority.  I have a big box of pix from my 35mm days I haven&#39;t scanned in yet.  But I lost the one video of me racing, dammit, I noticed because that was the first thing I got off my butt to digitize.  Prolly got put in a Barney box on &#8220;clean everything up the maids are coming&#8221; day and given to charity&#8230;</p>
<p>(Haven&#39;t been to Michigan, though, so I probably don&#39;t know the car in your pic, though I have met a number of Corvette Engineers from there, who may.  Corvetteomania is a fun obsession.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/05/07/2009-year-of-the-side-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6994</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 00:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Look me up when you get back here to PDX. We can have a chat IRL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Look me up when you get back here to PDX. We can have a chat IRL.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/05/07/2009-year-of-the-side-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6986</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 07:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of the team is in Portland (my home town, but I&#039;m contracting at Oracle Japan now), so I was excited to see all your links to events and people in Portland, makes me want to go back... :) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is some entrepreneurial spirit in Japan, but it&#039;s a bit harder to find than in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of the team is in Portland (my home town, but I&#39;m contracting at Oracle Japan now), so I was excited to see all your links to events and people in Portland, makes me want to go back&#8230; <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>There is some entrepreneurial spirit in Japan, but it&#39;s a bit harder to find than in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/05/07/2009-year-of-the-side-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6967</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 20:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool stuff. Located in Oregon?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t know the official HR policy in so many words :) My side projects aren&#039;t for pay either, just for personal edification, which makes them a bit different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool stuff. Located in Oregon?</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know the official HR policy in so many words <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  My side projects aren&#39;t for pay either, just for personal edification, which makes them a bit different.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/05/07/2009-year-of-the-side-project/comment-page-1/#comment-6963</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 14:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One side project...&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://curehunter.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://curehunter.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is Oracle ok with side projects?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One side project&#8230;<br /><a href="http://curehunter.com" rel="nofollow">http://curehunter.com</a></p>
<p>Is Oracle ok with side projects?</p>
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