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	<title>Comments on: I Don&#8217;t Care What You Say, Foursquare Rules</title>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9789</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I find badges more engaging than playing against people I know. Maybe b/c many of them bounce around town all day (and night) long working and playing nomadically. I do think the ability to see who else is checked into a venue might lead to some new friends (or weird stalking episodes).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interesting usage point about Yelp, which I rarely use. I&#039;ve not used the tips and to-dos on foursquare much yet, must try to do that.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The data are a gold mine for everyone really. I wish the algorithm reflected loyalty better though; you&#039;re not rewarded for repeat visits beyond the mayorship; for certain venues, you may never be the mayor (e.g. checking in vs. an employee), but your loyalty should be rewarded. I&#039;ll bet that changes as they build out IRL deals.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I dunno about an acronym, maybe fs? Have at it. If I had to guess, I&#039;d say they have a few thousand regular players worldwide; it&#039;s still pretty small, but growing fast. I&#039;m interested to see (although it&#039;s pretty tough) how many people continue to play after the newness is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I find badges more engaging than playing against people I know. Maybe b/c many of them bounce around town all day (and night) long working and playing nomadically. I do think the ability to see who else is checked into a venue might lead to some new friends (or weird stalking episodes).</p>
<p>Interesting usage point about Yelp, which I rarely use. I&#39;ve not used the tips and to-dos on foursquare much yet, must try to do that.</p>
<p>The data are a gold mine for everyone really. I wish the algorithm reflected loyalty better though; you&#39;re not rewarded for repeat visits beyond the mayorship; for certain venues, you may never be the mayor (e.g. checking in vs. an employee), but your loyalty should be rewarded. I&#39;ll bet that changes as they build out IRL deals.</p>
<p>I dunno about an acronym, maybe fs? Have at it. If I had to guess, I&#39;d say they have a few thousand regular players worldwide; it&#39;s still pretty small, but growing fast. I&#39;m interested to see (although it&#39;s pretty tough) how many people continue to play after the newness is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: jpiwowar</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9780</link>
		<dc:creator>jpiwowar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right now, playing foursquare in Vancouver has mostly amounted to checking in to venues around my new neighborhood.  Since furniture and kitchen gear are still boxed up and awaiting retrieval from Canada Customs, and jetlag has left me with very few neurons to rub together, we&#039;ve been wandering around a lot.  I think I missed the &quot;Overshare&quot; badge by 1 checkin yesterday.  So for the time being, it&#039;s still fun to see how far I can run up my score, even without people I know to compete against.  Most of the folks I already know out here are either too unplugged, busy, or skeptical to derive much value from the social web.  Once I settle into some regular haunts, it&#039;ll be interesting to see if I find new people through foursquare.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WRT Yelp v. foursquare, the sort of data foursquare is collecting could stack up well against Yelp&#039;s reviews.  Maybe I just have a short attention span, but I don&#039;t see anything coming out of a longer-form review on Yelp that I couldn&#039;t get from a To-do or Tip on foursquare.  Deals might skew things a little, but Yelp reviews can be gamed, and Yelp still uses that antiquated star-based rating system.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Then there&#039;s of all the data mining that could be done w/ foursquare data, eg: hotness: number of first-time checkins at a venue/week, with allowances for how recently the venue was added to the database; popularity: repeat checkins/week (or maybe month), with some sort of fudge factor to filter employees; reach: distinct users checked in/week (or month).  As you&#039;ve alluded, marketers would eat this stuff up.  And yeah, it could be gamed by merchants, but in these early stages I&#039;d probably be inclined to visit a merchant that&#039;s hip enough to try to game foursquare.  Heck, they&#039;d probably have free wifi. ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;+1 for the worldwide leaderboard, btw.  At the very least, I&#039;d like to be able to see what all my foursquare friends are up to, regardless of location.  I&#039;m just nebby that way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sidebar: Is there a digerati-approved abbreviation for foursquare? Cuz if not, after this comment I&#039;m feeling a need to add a snippet for it to TextExpander.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right now, playing foursquare in Vancouver has mostly amounted to checking in to venues around my new neighborhood.  Since furniture and kitchen gear are still boxed up and awaiting retrieval from Canada Customs, and jetlag has left me with very few neurons to rub together, we&#39;ve been wandering around a lot.  I think I missed the &#8220;Overshare&#8221; badge by 1 checkin yesterday.  So for the time being, it&#39;s still fun to see how far I can run up my score, even without people I know to compete against.  Most of the folks I already know out here are either too unplugged, busy, or skeptical to derive much value from the social web.  Once I settle into some regular haunts, it&#39;ll be interesting to see if I find new people through foursquare.  </p>
<p>WRT Yelp v. foursquare, the sort of data foursquare is collecting could stack up well against Yelp&#39;s reviews.  Maybe I just have a short attention span, but I don&#39;t see anything coming out of a longer-form review on Yelp that I couldn&#39;t get from a To-do or Tip on foursquare.  Deals might skew things a little, but Yelp reviews can be gamed, and Yelp still uses that antiquated star-based rating system.</p>
<p>Then there&#39;s of all the data mining that could be done w/ foursquare data, eg: hotness: number of first-time checkins at a venue/week, with allowances for how recently the venue was added to the database; popularity: repeat checkins/week (or maybe month), with some sort of fudge factor to filter employees; reach: distinct users checked in/week (or month).  As you&#39;ve alluded, marketers would eat this stuff up.  And yeah, it could be gamed by merchants, but in these early stages I&#39;d probably be inclined to visit a merchant that&#39;s hip enough to try to game foursquare.  Heck, they&#39;d probably have free wifi. <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>+1 for the worldwide leaderboard, btw.  At the very least, I&#39;d like to be able to see what all my foursquare friends are up to, regardless of location.  I&#39;m just nebby that way.</p>
<p>Sidebar: Is there a digerati-approved abbreviation for foursquare? Cuz if not, after this comment I&#39;m feeling a need to add a snippet for it to TextExpander.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9753</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I guess I should fix that. Checked it out just now. Foursquare != geocaching, at least not yet. You never know though, maybe IRL tie-ins lead to scavenger hunts, etc. Who knows. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I must say it is good to see geeky pursuits (even if they&#039;re not mine) get mainstream coverage. +1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I guess I should fix that. Checked it out just now. Foursquare != geocaching, at least not yet. You never know though, maybe IRL tie-ins lead to scavenger hunts, etc. Who knows. </p>
<p>I must say it is good to see geeky pursuits (even if they&#39;re not mine) get mainstream coverage. +1</p>
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		<title>By: joel garry</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9747</link>
		<dc:creator>joel garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you click on the link?  geocaching geeks on tv!  (Maybe you need to set links to a different color so people notice them)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you click on the link?  geocaching geeks on tv!  (Maybe you need to set links to a different color so people notice them)</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9742</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was out there in PIT, I too was bummed they hadn&#039;t expanded yet, but I suppose you and I have more reason than most to return and claim mayorships :) I still have a few from SF, and I wonder how long they&#039;ll last.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You mention the same point about Yelp that I forgot to cover. Foursquare manages to combine a social layer on top of reviews (To-Dos for now), which adds some cred. I don&#039;t really see them as competitive in reviews, since foursquare deals could taint a review, but I have used foursquare several times to find restaurants and bars near me. So, there is overlap, which will inevitably lead to competition or collaboration.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How do you enjoy playing in Vancouver? I wonder how fun it is without a bunch of friends (assuming you don&#039;t have a bunch already); maybe it&#039;s a good way to run into people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was out there in PIT, I too was bummed they hadn&#39;t expanded yet, but I suppose you and I have more reason than most to return and claim mayorships <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I still have a few from SF, and I wonder how long they&#39;ll last.</p>
<p>You mention the same point about Yelp that I forgot to cover. Foursquare manages to combine a social layer on top of reviews (To-Dos for now), which adds some cred. I don&#39;t really see them as competitive in reviews, since foursquare deals could taint a review, but I have used foursquare several times to find restaurants and bars near me. So, there is overlap, which will inevitably lead to competition or collaboration.</p>
<p>How do you enjoy playing in Vancouver? I wonder how fun it is without a bunch of friends (assuming you don&#39;t have a bunch already); maybe it&#39;s a good way to run into people.</p>
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		<title>By: jpiwowar</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9741</link>
		<dc:creator>jpiwowar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late to the party on foursquare, but I&#039;m digging it so far.  Bummed that I didn&#039;t get the chance to be the mayor of any of my favorite haunts in Pittsburgh before I left, but at least I managed to get the &quot;Local&quot; badge.  I definitely see myself using foursquare instead of Yelp! as I explore my new environs, in part because of the gaming aspect. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also like the community policing/data cleanup aspect mentioned in the linked article about superusers: &quot;this is your toy, please help to keep it clean!&quot;  Interesting point about travel patterns and targeted advertising, too; I&#039;d certainly be more receptive to more narrow-cast advertising.  Less spam, more bacn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m late to the party on foursquare, but I&#39;m digging it so far.  Bummed that I didn&#39;t get the chance to be the mayor of any of my favorite haunts in Pittsburgh before I left, but at least I managed to get the &#8220;Local&#8221; badge.  I definitely see myself using foursquare instead of Yelp! as I explore my new environs, in part because of the gaming aspect. </p>
<p>I also like the community policing/data cleanup aspect mentioned in the linked article about superusers: &#8220;this is your toy, please help to keep it clean!&#8221;  Interesting point about travel patterns and targeted advertising, too; I&#39;d certainly be more receptive to more narrow-cast advertising.  Less spam, more bacn!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9725</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give up, what&#039;s the reference here? Or did you mean CSI, a la this old post from when Twitter had a cameo way back when: &lt;a href=&quot;http://theappslab.com/2007/11/29/talk-the-talk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://theappslab.com/2007/11/29/talk-the-talk/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give up, what&#39;s the reference here? Or did you mean CSI, a la this old post from when Twitter had a cameo way back when: <a href="http://theappslab.com/2007/11/29/talk-the-talk/" rel="nofollow">http://theappslab.com/2007/11/29/talk-the-talk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: joel garry</title>
		<link>http://theappslab.com/2009/10/21/i-dont-care-what-you-say-foursquare-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-9723</link>
		<dc:creator>joel garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t bother until it&#039;s on &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=232691&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Law and Order&lt;/a&gt;. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#39;t bother until it&#39;s on <a href="http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=232691" rel="nofollow">Law and Order</a>. <img src='http://theappslab.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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