Comments on: What’s Your IDE of Choice?

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:48:30 +0000

Agreed, inertia is a powerful force. If I remember correctly, the SQL Developer pieces came out of JDev, when they spun it off as a new product.

I remember seeing JDev for the first time and being so glad they had a complete IDE so I didn't have to run Forms *and* Reports Builder simultaneously.

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:45:52 +0000

I wonder about the development community using JDev. It seems pretty common among Oracle customers (natch), so it seems logical that there would be a bigger community around it. Odd.

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:48:30 +0000

Agreed, inertia is a powerful force. If I remember correctly, the SQL Developer pieces came out of JDev, when they spun it off as a new product.

I remember seeing JDev for the first time and being so glad they had a complete IDE so I didn't have to run Forms *and* Reports Builder simultaneously.

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:45:52 +0000

I wonder about the development community using JDev. It seems pretty common among Oracle customers (natch), so it seems logical that there would be a bigger community around it. Odd.

By: oraclenerd

oraclenerd — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 01:59:55 +0000

JDeveloper for me. Since the 9.x days too.

I think the most I got out of it was the BC4J (where'd that go?) playing around. I also liked the built-in OC4J server to run my J2EE stuff...but I wasn't a "real" Java programmer, plus it was my first real exposure to an IDE. I've tried Eclipse and IntelliJ, but just don't do that much Java anymore.

JDev has the SQL Dev capabilities (i.e. schema browser) and ties in nicely with Team Foundation and Subversion (both plugins I believe). It has more to do with not wanting/needing to change at this point.

By: Mayukh

Mayukh — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:28:43 +0000

Eclipse used to be my favorite IDE. Because of all the open source support and the plug ins available for various cool stuff/APIs. Before that I used Sun's Java studio enterprise IDE. I used jdev for last 2 years. It is cool and everything, but not stable and very buggy. It has no open source support and lacks a big dev community etc. I wish I could have gone back to eclipse.

By: Jake

Jake — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:22:05 +0000

Makes sense, and I have to agree about unknown territories/shiny objects being exciting. Didn't know JDev had a Bug plugin, pretty cool.

By: Kiran

Kiran — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:34:34 +0000

Majority of my team still is with Eclipse but I like to try things around. Unknown territories are exciting! Moreover I am looking forward to all the internal integrations like plugins for ADE and bugdb (ex: check-in a change for a bug and automatically mark the bug fixed).

By: Jake

Jake — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:03:44 +0000

Interesting, you're the first Eclipse user to comment. Any reason you moved from Eclipse? Justin tells me there is an Oracle Enterprise Pack for Eclipse, so why not leverage your Eclipse knowledge?

Re. your Disqus comment, I checked it out, and you were right it was borked. I upgraded the iPhone rendering plugin we use (WPtouch iPhone Theme), and now it works, but not very well In the Disqus login lightbox, enter your username, then use the soft keyboard Next button to tab into the invisible password field. Finally, use the Go button on the soft keyboard, since the full lightbox isn't displayed.

A bit janky, but it worked.

By: Jake

Jake — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:50:39 +0000

Not specifically, but I do recall the days of the infamous Informix billboard. Drove by it many times.

By: Jake

Jake — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:50:03 +0000

It is powerful, confusing and frustrating, sometimes all at once, but I'd hazard a guess that most modern IDEs have that combination.

By: manalang

manalang — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:36:41 +0000

Correction… I use VIM not TextMate and this isn't the first time I've installed JDeveloper. I used JDev back after the acquisition happened. Anyway… I'll post my JDev experience when I have more time.

By: pgkiran

pgkiran — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:04:39 +0000

In Hyperion I used Eclipse/MyEclipse but this year I started using JDeveloper. Its a resource hog if you enable all the roles but in general any IDE I used in the past has been a resource hog. I like it overall.

A side note: The disqus login to comment on the iPhone was unusable. It does not render correctly, however I am not sure its specific to your blog though.

By: uvox

uvox — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:02:51 +0000

Forms 4.5. Oracle Power Browser? Jeez…. you'll be telling me you remember the rumors of Oracle buying Apple next…:)

By: Joonas Linkola

Joonas Linkola — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:50:41 +0000

I'm currently in a love-hate relationship with JDeveloper, working on stuff with the full ADF stack (have had a look at WebCenter, too). It's not perfect — things regularly get borked and require a restart, bug notification alerts == daily fun, rendering oddities galore etc. — but even so, it gives a huge productivity boost.

Can't really compare it to anything else personally as my previous environments have been pretty much emacs+compiler.