TweetDeck Adds Facebook, What’s Next?

March 16th, 2009 7 Comments

TweetDeckAs is usual during the weeks before and during South by Southwest, there are a lot of product announcements.

I’m not quite sure how/when it happened, but SXSW Interactive has become a nexus of startup activity and geekery, e.g. Twitter’s first bump came when the service won the SXSW Web Awards in 2007.

So, it’s become a yearly rush of new feature and new company announcements. This year, not so many new companies, but plenty of new features. Over the last week plus, going into SXSW, and in its first few days, I’ve collected a bunch of topics for further thought that may turn into blog posts.

But today, one item caught my attention, and I wanted to riff on it before it went cold.

TweetDeck, the most popular Twitter client and the one I use, released a beta version (h/t Frederic Lardinois at RWW) that  integrates with Facebook Connect, allowing you to view your News Feed in one of its columns. Also, you can now choose to post updates from TweetDeck to Facebook, making TweetDeck a Facebook status client.

Updates can be sent to both Twitter and Facebook, effectively removing the need for the Twitter Facebook application, and ensuring that both your networks will stay updated on your activity. He said with more than a hint of sarcasm :)

If you’re wondering, TweetDeck does not post updates beginning with @ to Facebook, which makes sense, since they’re out of context. It does not, however, ignore updates that contain @ after the first character though, which should be an enhancement later. Then again, Twitter doesn’t officially track replies @ you unless they begin with @, which is one reason why AIR clients and Summize (now Twitter Search) are so popular for tracking those @ replies.

This is mildly cool, if you use both services and want to broadcast to Facebook like you do to Twitter. The recent UI changes to Facebook aim to make it more like Twitter and FriendFeed, which is sure to appeal to existing users of those services; the jury is out on whether the masses on Facebook will take to the life-streaming, micro-blogging approach.

I’m guessing they will, eventually, since Facebook has so much momentum right now.

I like the implementation overall. It’s smooth and easy to use, and it fits within TweetDeck easily. My main beef is that it adds yet another column to an already real estate hungry app. I can only show four TweetDeck columns as it is, and now I have another that I might want to see competing for screen time.

I’m not sure how to solve this problem, other than with a cinema display. Christmas might have to come early.

None of this is terribly interesting to me though.

What got me about TweetDeck’s new version its potential to marginalize the networks themselves. Bear with me here.

TweetDeck’s main appeal over any other Twitter AIR client (AlertThingy, Twhirl, etc.) is its implementation of groups, something that is sorely needed for Twitter. Having groups allows you to control what you follow and to organize the chaos that Twitter can become once you follow a few hundred people (or sooner).

Twitter seems fine with allowing TweetDeck to fill this vacuum, and even though TweetDeck is the top Twitter client, it lags well behind twitter.com for overall traffic to Twitter.

Enter Facebook updates. My logical conclusion is that I should be able to add Facebook friends to my existing groups. This isn’t the case in the beta release, but image how useful that would for a person who uses both services frequently. You could focus your attention on the people who mattered most, regardless of the service they prefer to use.

For example, Paul uses Facebook more than Twitter. I rarely see his updates to Facebook because I prefer Twitter. To communicate, one of us has to use his second choice in networks. If TweetDeck supported groups across services, we could each use our first choice in networks for communicating.

TweetDeck already supports a host of Twitter features, including follows, favorites, directs and even search, which Twitter has yet to integrate into twitter.com. About the only thing you can’t do with TweetDeck is create and manage your account. Otherwise, it’s fully operational.

I seriously doubt that Facebook will expose this much functionality to apps like TweetDeck, but the more they add, the less traffic they serve directly. Less traffic means less clout with advertisers, which is not good for business.

Anyway, I’m very curious to see how this Facebook client integration progresses. Logically, it makes sense for Facebook to open up some of their data to clients, since the model has already been proven. After all, of their user population, only a small percentage will choose clients over facebook.com.

At least that’s the way it looks now. Things change quickly though. This time last week, I would have been laughed at the idea of a Facebook client.

Find the comments and share your thoughts.

Update: A day after TweetDeck’s beta, AlertThingy, another AIR app for monitoring Twitter and FriendFeed, added Facebook, Flickr and Digg contacts and custom groups to their offering. Significantly, their groups support contacts from multiple networks (h/t RWW).

I may have to go back to AlertThingy, which I tried about a year ago when they produced the first FriendFeed app. I quickly stopped using it because I just can’t keep up with FriendFeed, not anything to do with AlertThingy.


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  • http://nbrightside.com/blog Andy C

    Interesting article as ever and love the concept of VLI but I must call you out on ‘Twitter and Openness’.

    Twitter’s refusal to participate in OMB and share their source code with the world so we can address the performance and scalability problems hardly make it open.

    Can you download Twitter and install it behind the corporate firewall ? No.

    Can you implement Twitter with an Oracle back-end or modify it to alk to OraTweet ? No.

    If you are mixing the words ‘µblogging and openness’ in the same sentence…try ‘Laconi.ca’

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  • http://theappslab.com/ Jake

    Sure, but don’t get caught up in that. Twitter’s API offers a lot more of its functionality than other similar services, specifically Facebook. That’s not really the point though.

    BTW, does laconi.ca run on Oracle? I can’t recall.

    There’s no need to defend laconi.ca or identi.ca vs. Twitter to me. I met Evan last year at Beer and Blog during OSCON, and I’m an open source guy. I’m into what he’s doing with that project.

    Again, not the point of this post, so I’ll amend it accordingly.

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  • Chris

    I suppose it really depends on who you are and what you are using the app for. I also prefer simple interfaces, but if you actually prefer CLI, then you are likely not in the majority of target users who likely are not programmers. I say likely, but how would I know?

     I recently saw a short video on TED about “Sixth Sense” showing a mashup of capabilities using a phone, web cam and mirror (that you carry) to do some fascinating things.  Worth a watch.

    Combined with this discussion, it makes me wonder if the future (or next step) for Twitter isn’t a voice version that uses something like GoogleVoice so that you don’t even have to key-in the message, just say it.  Or maybe it’s voice recognition on the phone?  You know, pick the icon, say your tweet and hit send.  just a thought…

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  • http://theappslab.com/ Jake

    Preference is a funny thing with a lot of users. I think it’s more what I’m used to and what I know, e.g. Google for search, Amazon for e-commerce, Twitter for micro-blogging.

    I ran into this a lot in consulting, when replacing a mainframe-based terminal system with a GUI. Adding the need for a mouse to tasks that used to be fully keyboard-based threw people for a loop. I don’t think they *preferred* the keyboard way, it was just what they were accustomed to using.

    I love TED talks, will definitely take a look.

    There is a Twitter-by-voice app, TwiterFone. I covered it here about a year ago. If you want to try it, get on their invites list or ping @patphelan. Overall, I don’t use it as much as I thought I would, but it’s very handy if you’re on the go a lot. Plus, it’s voice recognition makes for some unintentional comedy.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Goldstick/502749470 Dave Goldstick

    Nice post. It made me think of an article I had read from Andrew McAfee. As it relates, I think the term he would use is, “frictionless.” Here’s a link to the article: http://andrewmcafee.org/blog/?p=584

    “Frictionless means that users perceive it to be easy to participate in the platform, and can do so with very little time or effort. One measure of friction is the total time required between having an idea for a contribution (while sitting in front of the computer, carrying the iPhone, etc.) and the appearance of that contribution on the platform.

    Sign-ins, navigation through many web pages, and clunky user interfaces are all perceived as hurdles by a platform’s potential users, and increase friction. So does the need to massage a contribution like a blog post to look like it wasn’t put together by a complete hack. I can already tell, for example, that I’m going to post to this version of my blog more often than I did when it was hosted under the hbs.edu domain name and used a different and clunkier interface for posting. I felt like I had to tweak each entry for a long time to make it look OK, and it was a disincentive to post.

    Tweetdeck, on the other hand, makes contribution to Twitter pretty frictionless. It sits on my desktop as a separate client, and I zip over to it whenever I have an idea. It’s quick and painless to send a standard tweet, a reply, a direct message, or a retweet, and to shorten and include a URL. With Tweetdeck I can convince myself to take a timeout from my deep academic thinking (coughcough) more often because each timeout is so short – literally just a matter of seconds.”

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  • http://theappslab.com/ Jake

    Good tip on the post from Dr. McAfee.

    Funny. This is why I dislike comment moderation and what I like about Pivotal Tracker. Now, I have a fancy word to use. That will make me sound very intellectual

    I guess McAfee doesn’t subscribe to the theory that sustained, uninterrupted thinking is better than multi-tasking. I do subscribe to that theory, which is why I drop out of Twitter, email, IM and other distractions when I need to think big thoughts.

    That’s a post for another time.

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