Disqus Adds Comment Aggregation

April 2nd, 2009 29 Comments

Disqus + uberVUI suppose I blog a lot about Disqus because we’ve been using it here for a while. I’ve gone back and forth about whether we should keep it, especially after WordPress introduced threaded comments.

Although I’m not in love with the idea of a) not owning the comments and b) taking a performance hit on every post, Disqus has made a lot of changes suggested by its users and allowances to concerns like comment portability.

Oh, and I’ve had nothing but terrible experiences with IntenseDebate, and even if Automattic integrates their commenting system into WordPress, I will resist it with a grudge.

Plus, they have been moving toward aggregating comments across services, which makes a lot of sense, and today, they publicly released Social Media Reactions, which had been in limited testing over at Mashable for about a month.

Settings for Social Media Reactions

The goal of the new feature is simple: collect and aggregate any chatter about your blog posts from a laundry list of services, including FriendFeed, Twitter, Digg, and a bunch more. It looks like Disqus partnered with uberVU on the plugin, which I have set up and enabled. I also upgraded our comment plugin, which was a few versions out of date.

If you use a Disqus login to see, you’ll see a few new features in there. Update: One new feature is video commenting. Rich already left a test comment, apparently the post left him speechless. You’ll need yet another account to leave one, with Seesmic. Enjoy.

It’s not clear whether the reactions will be retroactively collected for old posts (unlikely), or how they’ll display. If you look at Mashable’s posts, their comments widget adds a section called “Social Media Comments”. Apparently, that will be renamed to “Reactions”.

The plugin does not seem to support any replying either via Disqus or the service of choice. However, since several of the services provide APIs, it’s only a matter of time before you’ll be able to send replies to FriendFeed or Twitter.

Anyway, we don’t have a huge problem with fragmentation here, but even so, it will be nice to see other services included for each post. I’d like to catch the occasional Digg for a giggle. Incidentally, why isn’t Delicious on that list? There is a checkbox for “Other services”, but damn, how the mighty have fallen.

So, nice work Disqus. Next, please extend your plugin to support OpenID.

Beyond the newsy piece here, this type of aggregation is a hat-tip to the blog (and blogger) as a content source. It’s been debated that Twitter and FriendFeed (possibly Facebook) have taken the power out of personal blogging (I know, assuming it ever had any). I tend to agree that other services and communities dilute the overall influence of a blog.

Aggregation of content scattered around the ‘tubes into your blog is the next logical step in blogging. Witness the AboutUs widget (h/t Rick), which I’m considering adding. What is it?

The AboutUs Blog Widget embeds key information about any website in your post. A snippet of JavaScript, it adds a 63-character summary of the website, tags describing the site – called topics – and links to both their website and wiki page.

Whatever your blogging forte, the widget is a way for you to serve your readers better by providing an unobtrusive introduction to websites you’ve mentioned. The best part is, if you or your readers have ideas for improving this info, editing the AboutUs page updates the widget automatically.

I don’t write about companies very often, so I’m not sure how much value it would add. But still, it would aggregate content.

What do you think of comment systems, aggregation, any of this crap?

Sound off in the comments.


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  • http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/ John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)

    I also use Disqus, but I'm probably not going to rush out and implement Social Media Reactions. I don't have a great desire to aggregate the conversations. In fact, my latest thinking is that it may be a plus to have separate conversations in Disqus, FriendFeed, or wherever.

    The item that does intrigue me, however, is the AboutUs widget. One of my blogs is a business blog, so I could potentially get some use out of it. Need to investigate further – do the results display in IE6? :)

  • http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/ John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)

    I investigated further, and created a post with AboutUs widgets for a few sites, including this one. Obviously, the true benefit occurs if you sign up for AboutUs and contribute material yourself.

  • http://theappslab.com Jake

    I like the idea and AboutUs. Rick's post mentions that his goal was to implement a more public version of CrunchBase, and I'm down with that.

    I'm not a huge fan of the big footprint the widget has right now. I'll bet they're working on a smaller version.

    Of course, this also conflicts a bit with what Panels.net, another Portland startup, is doing too. I implemented their code a few months ago, but I've no idea if anyone uses it/cares about it/finds it annoying, etc.

    I wrote about Panels in November.

  • http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/ John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)

    Steven,

    Thanks for the comment, and the information. I’m using the AboutUs widget in the next several scheduled posts that I’ve written (and you’re right, it was fairly fast to add the widgets to the posts), but I suspect that I’ll get the true benefit when I sign up for AboutUs and contribute to the information base itself.

    This comment was originally posted on Empoprise-BI

  • http://aboutus.org/ Steven

    Hi John,

    In our use of the widget and the feedback we got from bloggers who beta tested it, we find that a simple copy-and-paste is no more work that embedding a YouTube video. Like other media embeds, the reason it’s manual and not automated is to make sure that you decide exactly when and where the widget appears in your blog.

    In terms of having information about the site to include in the widget, AboutUs currently has 14 million pages, so it’s very likely that we have something for most TLDs. As far as subdomains go, we do support having AboutUs pages for them. It’s just that our bot doesn’t currently have the technical capability to write them automatically for you.

    But more importantly, I’d be interested in hearing some details about how the widget might work better for you.

    Thanks for the post!

    This comment was originally posted on Empoprise-BI

  • http://friendfeed.com/jkuramot Jake Kuramoto

    Testing, not navel-gazing I promise ;)

    This comment was originally posted on FriendFeed

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  • http://realadvertising.cc/ Frymaster

    I luv me some disqus. From the user perspective, I luv to see I’m already an entity on your blog. Yay, portability. Boo, a million logins.

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • http://empoprise-bi.blogspot.com/ John E. Bredehoft (Empoprises)

    Wow, several questions at once. Let me answer all three of them, one by one.

    (1) I don’t care if my content gets discussed in other places, but I’m sure that someone who is dependent upon the monetization of his/her content may feel differently. Or maybe he/she wouldn’t, since comments in other places (often) serve to evangelize the source of the content to others who may not have heard about it. I think that actually happened in one instance (I forget whether The Apps Lab, or another blog, was the repository of the original content.)

    (2) I use Google Reader to conduct ego searches, but I don’t really have a formal way to explicitly track mentions of the content itself on other services. This is partially because of my blogging platform of choice (Blogger – I’m inertial), but I could be more aggressive in this area.

    (3) I admit that I often don’t think of the best conversation location for the content provider, but often think of the best conversation location for myself. As a fellow Disqus user, I’m positively inclined toward commenting in Disqus, which not only shows up in (and links to) the original content source, but also appears in my FriendFeed stream. I’d almost say that it was a win-win, except for the fact that it does allow comments to break out in other places, which may be good or bad depending upon your point of view.

    So now I’ll post this. And because of the length of the comment, people will HAVE to come here to see the whole thing.

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • http://theappslab.com/ Jake

    I don’t really mind the fragmentation, as long as I can find all the mentions and jump into the exchanges, as the content originator.

    This is why I *really* want Disqus to release that feature. I’m a bit confused about a) why it happened and b) why a pretty transparent company like Disqus hasn’t been more vocal about the fact that it’s not ready.

    I’d accept an “our bad it’s not ready yet” post. But the only semi-official acknowledgment is the comment by Daniel I listed.

    Weak.

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • http://www.backtype.com/cg Christopher Golda

    Love to hear that you’re making use of our plugin, despite not being able to display comments in Disqus. I think you can actually get Disqus to show our comments by importing or sync-ing with WP comments, but unfortunately it doesn’t do that automatically.

    Generally, I don’t think you, as a publisher, can stop comments from fragmenting to other services. At BackType, we’re hoping to give both bloggers and comment authors the tools to find, follow and share conversations irrespective of where they take place.

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • http://theappslab.com/ Jake

    Hmm, I wonder about duplicates though if I imported WP comments into Disqus.

    Actually, I embrace fragmentation, but I also crave aggregation. You guys and Disqus (when their feature gets released) have it right. Allow the blogger to aggregate commentary that happens other places.

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • joel garry

    I think it ought to be considered rude to comment elsewhere – I do it myself all the time It’s very easy to lose context, very easy to “talk behind someone’s back,” even though they are likely to see it, perhaps when someone says hey, did you see… And yet, with comment moderation you don’t know if someone hasn’t seen your comment (I discovered that since I often use the blog name with my domain as the posting email, some posting software thinks I’m giving commands and sends the fail to me! I smell injection attack…), they’re ignoring you (like many official Oracle blogs), they configured you to spam, they think you are nuts, they’re lazy or what-all.

    Blogging and the associated technologies are a type of infrastucture, and yet are evolving. This makes it all much less useful in my opinion, though there is no good answer to that. Infrastructure must be available, predictable and long lasting.

    Perhaps the fragmentation is an evolutionary pressure to move away from hierarchy (I speak, many listen, most comments boring and predictable) and towards a network structure (we all communicate en mass… like usenet and early BBS’s figured out years ago).

    Even Eric Schmidt things the web is unpleasant: http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/08/news/newspaper_…

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • http://obscurelyfamous.com/ Daniel Ha

    I’m typing this on my phone right now, so apologies for sounding short.

    Reactions was meant to be released in a staged manner. We flubbed and the settings were shown to everyone for a short period of time. In that mean, many people enabled the settings, and many people spread the word of its release.

    We decided to write about it (only) on our blog just to intro what it’s about. We mention right in the post that’s it’s being staged out. We wanted to prepare the Reactions for everyone before completely releasing it. Since people began enabling it already, we just made a disclaimer that it would take a couple days for reactions to populate.

    Along the way there were issues, as with anything new or novel that is released. Today things are much faster and things are going along at a fast pace. It’s not instantaneous yet but we’re working toward that level.

    I’m not sure what else there is to acknowledge, as all of this has been officially stated before. We’ve been busy trying to improve this for you (and everyone).

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • http://theappslab.com/ Jake

    Sorry, I must have missed the staged release piece in the initial blog post you did.

    I guess viral spreading is par for the course with this crowd, making it tougher to contain once the word got out about the feature. Once live, it will be a sweet feature, and I’m antsy to test it if you need testers.

    Having been in software for many years, I feel your pain about new feature releases. I do appreciate the transparency and honesty under which you and your company operate.

    Anyway, weak comment gladly retracted

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

  • http://theappslab.com/ Jake

    We don’t ignore you. You could say this is the official AppsLab blog Accept no substitutes.

    I’m with you on moderation and hope I never have to do that b/c it will ruin the conversation here.

    Like I said, I’ve no problem with people chatting about stuff I say in other places, even if it’s bad. I just want to know about it so I can chime in and ideally add to the discussion.

    There’s still a long way to go though.

    This comment was originally posted on Oracle AppsLab

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    I am a blogger and I always used to DISQUS for comment it is too easy .The goal of the new feature is too good for new users….

  • http://bizimsamsun.com/ Banetta Carter

    Disqus is Great! Currently there are some “comment plugins” which can let a page have function of comment.The best one I know is Disqus With greater control and commenter profiles. this plugins is really cool, I love it. Thanks for Sharing..

  • http://www.easyrecovery.co.uk/ data recovery

    Disqus requires anonymous posters to leave a valid email address. I couldn't find a way to turn this option off. I'm sure this will just result in people leaving bogus email addresses.

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